No, you got it right the first time. We disagree in the definition of logic in that yours seems to be wrong.

Yeah, it’s crazy in retrospect to think about how close together all those were and how different they look, even from each other. The time gap between MI1 and Curse is the same gap between Fallout 4 and now. And that was a HUGE hiatus, those games basically bookend the entire history of Lucasarts doing point and…

I don’t know if “not liking” it is right. I just can’t dissociate it from the disappointment I felt about that game as a whole. Separating myself from it I agree that it looks... nice. I just never thought it looked much like Monkey Island.

I don’t love the art style, but if the writing is good I’m fine with it. I mean, it’s definitely a personal thing, but I don’t think I’ve enjoyed any art style for MI past the VGA pixel art.

I feel that way about 3. Less about the mean-spirited bit, but certainly about the being off thing.

Alright, you don’t understand how arguments work, so let’s take this slow.

Oh, yeah, I agree that the process isn’t bad. It’s just the lack of stock that is an issue. If there were as many Steam Decks as there were PS5s at launch nobody would have any problems getting one. 

Yeah, I’m struggling quite a bit to understand what you’re talking about. We agree on that. I don’t think we agree on the reason for that, though. I seem to struggle to follow your pretzel, non-sequitur logic through the looking glass, which I’m pretty sure is not on me. For instance, you keep saying that media isn’t…

Valve is not new to this. They first srtarted shipping hardware seven years ago. The Steam Deck is built on a custom AMD APU, just like the PS5 and the Xbox series. They clearly have the clout and the money to just walk to AMD’s offices and get them to make one of those.

Wait, do you think “media” means “digital media”? Do you think physical media is not media?

I got in a bit sooner and... yeah, it was rough. They then spent a long time patching in things very fast. Stupid fast, actually. And a few weeks ago it just... stopped.

Meh, that’s debatable. The PS5 was being rushed by scalpers, but it still sold millions of units really, really fast. I bought a Steam Deck six months before it was out and the people who did so one week later are still waiting for it.

No, you’ve been arguing that people don’t care about ownership at all. There is a big, big difference between not letting the fact that your digital media may disappear stop you from getting it and not being upset when it goes away. The same way that there is a big difference between not letting the sugar bomb soda…

You are absolutely wrong about how people make decisions. The entirety of the field of marketing is built on you being wrong about this.

Having dealt with the Steam Deck software since pretty early on after launch, I’m gonna say it *definitely* was rushed, at least on that front. I’d also suggest that if any other hardware company was struggling to meet demand this much they’d get severely roasted for it, and that also goes to how rushed the thing was.

Yeah, it threw me off that they meant “larger” as in “of larger dimensions” not “with larger storage capacity”.

No, you weirdo, when somebody says “never mind that X, also Y” it tends to mean that even though the first part of the statement is relevant, the second part would still be relevant without it.

Yeah, I think that’s the one piece of straight up bad advice in this.

Yeah, that checks out, I suppose. We’ll see. 

Hey, no, you’re doing the whole “responding to shit out of context” thing and I really don’t want to skip to the whole “one fallacy at a time” but I WILL turn this thread around, young man.