That’s the fun part, no? It’s not like the 4C is so fast that you’re looking at world best times or anything, which is the only reason I can justify DCTs in something like the P1.

I never thought that looking at a car could actually make me feel queasy, but the i8 now does that for me.  Disgusting.

Yeah, even my little 135i has a similar power/weight ratio. I think it’s a fantastic balance for the street, but not if the thing is $70K or whatever. It’s gotta be really fast for that price.

I sort of agree. They’re teetering on the edge of going overwrought Spyker/Pagani interior. I like their earlier stuff more, at least in terms of aesthetics, but I’m unfortunately not playing in this price range.

Singer already makes watches, fwiw, but they’re not low end Rolex money. This one is $40K:

This is a blog about cool cars, not an objective, automotive safe space. What was the last manual car you owned that turned you off from them so badly??

Good point, but, hey, don’t get me started on the Panamera or Macan. I wouldn’t buy one of those, even with a 25-speed manual.

I’ll certainly let you enjoy your life doing whatever you’d like...but not on Jalopnik. :) I do think the manual transmission is integral to this site, as the t-shirt I posted above indicates. Drum machines are fine, too, but not on an analog drum blog.

I understand that companies are in business to make money, but I think it could be short sited. Porsche seems to still be pulling it off, and they may eventually clean up when young Jalops are finally able to buy a higher end sports car with a manual.

I hear you, but I think it’s still a valid criticism for those who aspire to own cars like this someday, because getting rid of manuals now likely means they be completely gone in the future.

Sorry, but the only way I’d buy a fun car with an auto on the street is if I had a disability that prevented driving a manual. Driving an auto may be fun for some, but driving a manual is more fun, and it’s an integral part of the experience, just like with the list of other similar pursuits that I listed above.

Why is this question asked so much around here? There are lots of people around here who actually buy expensive cars. I can tell you that no manual is the major reason I never considered a 4C, despite it being well in my price range. If the new Alpine A110 was offered here with a manual, I’d probably buy one…

It’s fun vs. speed. It’s manual focus vs. auto focus. It’s a mechanical watch vs. a quartz watch. It’s a drum set vs. a drum machine. It’s fly fishing vs. spin fishing. It’s art vs. science.

I agree that the newer interiors don’t look great in other colors, either, but I still think the 996 is by far the ugliest Porsche 911 interior of all time, and that’s coming from someone who did drive one for years. I will say that I do like that it’s at least simple. The 991 interior has become too luxury SUV-like,…

So you’re saying it’s a coupe?

Agreed. I’m usually surprised about all of the big sedan, wagon and shooting brake talk around here, which are generally lame to me. It’s all about 2 doors, rear wheel drive and a manual.

They did cave to the backlash, but it was a big improvement IMO. Enough for me to choose a 996.2 over a 996.1. That being said, I also agree with the general consensus that it’s the worst 911 interior. Functional, sure, but creaky with way too many outdated curves.  Getting it in black is a must, because it tones…

I do hear what you’re saying, but I still don’t think a few percent is that big of a deal. Sure, you may pay a few grand more over the life of the loan, or $50 more per month, but I doubt that’s a deal breaker if you’re looking at cars in that price range.

Yeah, but that’s kinda my point. New car interest rates also vary depending on these factors, and I’m not sure I’ve ever paid much more than a couple percent more for a used car vs. a new one. Granted, I have always had excellent credit, but that shouldn’t be unusual for those buying cars this expensive.