What’s ironic about that? People are choosing more space and utility, over a vehicle that is similar, but has a less efficient use of space. Only downside is a minimal fuel economy hit.

I’m not sure what the point of your argument is. I said the ST is slower. It is. End of story.

They don’t do just one run and count that. They normally do 5-10 and take an average. They usually have the same drivers do them too.

Barely allowable? In what world?

No, no I’m not.

So let’s make it even more dangerous? Especially for those people on a motorcycle?

Yamaha’s own website lists it as 306 lbs, dry. And nice job reading a spec sheet...

If I were to get one (which I’m considering it, seeing as VW is buying back my current ‘15 Golf Sportwagen TDI), I’d get the GTI S Sport. Mainly because I will never own another VW with their shitty V-tex seats ever again. That shit doesn’t breath at all. On hot days you end up with the worst swamp ass in the world.

Weird. Not that R’s are frequently for sale in my area, but they are almost always asking below MSRP. If you’re lucky, $37,000, but more commonly $38-40,000 depending on the options.

Loaded Autobahns are going for $33,000-$35,000... what the hell are Golf R’s selling for in your area?

I’ve discovered after going from VW to Mini that I can’t stand most VW enthusiasts.

Yawn.

Wait, so you want the cheapest vehicle per-pound? I mean, that would be the most common way to classify it. Doing it the other-way around is kinda against all regular buying metrics.

I feel like they started with a Toyota Camry:

A Focus ST is slower...

They don’t make a GTI Sportwagen...

It’s kinda funny, because the Malibu is headed the other direction. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a pretty boring car to drive, it is a long ways away from what it used to be.

Ok, so you can’t show it’s not a truck, since it is. It tows like a truck. It can haul like a truck. It can off road just as well as a base model Tacoma. It’s a truck. The fact it is derived from an SUV is irrelevant.

When I went to Death Valley, I say the then yet-to-be-released Challengers testing. It was so cool, but before the time that camera phones were ever so present.