drundersteer
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drundersteer

SELLING! The whole subject (and your comment about market drivers) is about selling new products.

I, for one, am.

Not production, sale of new ICE cars.

Did anyone not see this coming? Just keep in mind that this ban is on the production of ICE cars, not ownership or use of. And it will take forever to spread here.

Taking your lead from telecom companies is probably a bad place to start.

I love how they put a VW on the box.

Let’s wait and see. “Working groups” are pretty common everywhere. The telecom industry comes to mind with their countless working groups, mostly driving standardization. It’s very difficult to draw a line between establishing principles for an industry and collusion.

Using the turn signal takes care of lane watch annoyances.

“Once they’re lifted, local police reportedly said that the vehicles are dismantled within a couple hours of being purloined.”

when compacts are slowly edged to the size of a midsize one doesn’t need a midsize. I think my gf’s focus is the size of my 96 ford contour that I used to have.

The weight distribution of the accord is 60/40. In regards to steering feel, have you driven a modern BMW? Not good.

My late father-in-law had an XV10 Camry (‘92-’96). His had the V6 and was a top trim model. It was a shockingly good car for the time. Very refined.

I wouldn’t hold your breathe. Weight distribution, suspension and steering feel, just to name a few, will be far superior in a BMW than the Accord. The Accord might go and it would be fun to row your own in what most people will see as “just-another-family-sedan” but it will not compare to a BMW.

“The Camry and Accord are two of the best-selling cars of all time, but mid-size sedan sales are in a tailspin. Could our desire for beefy CUVs spell the end of Accord/Camry dominance on American roads?”

This industry totally operates on the philosophy that only when things look bad will good products emerge.

And even Chrysler as a corporation was founded by a bunch of struggling companies coming together. And it doesn’t seem like they’ve ever stopped struggling since 1926.

Their history is like a soap opera. They never really recovered after the 60's. The merger list from 1970 forward is extensive. The bailout list from the government is worse. They’ve been getting bailed out since the 80's.

Neutral: No one in the last 40 years has been able to make Chrysler a profit engine for more than a couple years. Maybe even longer than that. I’m beginning to think it’s just a thing that foreign automakers use as an in for the US market, and to get tax breaks when they move more production here. lol

Tangentially related: Watching CBC News right now, the reporter just referred to Elron Musk.

I am not looking forward to the day Mr. Musk is disfigured by that fall into an industrial vat and vows to show us.