ah yes I always decide my vehicle purchases based on minor product issues that have been fixed for 5 years and window problems that appart from the original complaint can’t be recreated. I care about the battery and drive train, the rest is negligible.

You mean so they don’t crash into the sturdy EV with their gas car and have the fragile gasoline cars explode?

Does it have to throttle position sensors like the older GM design?  And the ECU verifies both data matches?  Or is it like the Boeing design which uses one sensor and causes the plane to crash when the sensor doesn’t report correctly?

For train nerds, this is basically like Babe Ruth jogging back into right field for the Yankees. The Big Boys were #1 on the “too big to restore, too big to operate” list, nobody thought it would ever happen. So this is pretty much a dream come true for our little fandom.

Tesla paperwork is less than 5 minutes. Picked mine up about 3 weeks ago. Didn’t finance, so that probably made it faster. Just signed my name on a couple pieces of paper and that was it! Their process is light years ahead of traditional dealers. They also don’t try to up sell you on extended warranties or aftermarket…

Although Elon Musk is perhaps a little too Bro (c.f. flamethrowers, or launching a car into space instead of, say, helping the impoverished eat) for my tastes, it is frustrating how much hate he gets — he is single-handedly forcing the car industry to switch to Electric, which is just about as amazing a thing for the…

It threatens people.

We’ve been hearing this for years. No they’re not. Tesla is seen as innovative and cool; VW is not. Plenty of people buy on that image.

The worst that will happen to Tesla is they’ll have to continue raising funding/taking on debt. If the problem ever gets too bad some other company will just buy them out.

You got the nail on the head. Now imagine what it’s like for people who don’t even like cars.

Before we got my wife’s (new-ish) car 4 years ago, we were taking my decade old car on road trips.  Got sick and tired of that, and found out that renting a car (in town, not from an airport) could be stupidly cheap.  Plus that way my wife could drive since she can’t drive mine (stick shift).  Renting a car for a…

This is why I waited 12 years since buying our last car.

I’m 32 and we just got our first new cars. We had always bought used from craigslist or friends. My only dealership experience was tagging along as a teen when my siblings purchased cars, it was brutal. Anyway, wife got a model 3, no joke, it took 20 minutes. It actually felt a little too easy, like it should be a…

This would be my ideal situation. Owning a car as a choice, not a need. Owning a car because I need one really sucks.

You sound just like me. I love cars. But buying them is awful. I’ve become so cynical about the whole thing, mostly because no one makes anything I want to buy, so anything I could buy is not only expensive but also not what I want. Talk about soul destroying. “Here are your options. You hate all of them and they cost…

It’s more complicated to order dinner for 4 on GrubHub than it was to buy a Model 3 online from Tesla. Picking it up took perhaps 30 minutes (and the dealer was swamped!)  It doesn’t have to be this way. 

OK, I feel like I have to make a confession here. While I love cars, I fucking hate car ownership. Every single aspect seems purposefully designed to suck the life and enjoyment out of it. Buying a car is a huge pain, with shady dealerships, hard-salesmanship from “the finance guy”, pre-optioned models and locked-in…

Or perhaps Dan Gurney, who built his own frickin car from scratch?

“There is ultimately nothing they do that cannot be done better for less money (i.e., more efficiently) by other car companies.”

Just a quick primer on the Saturn series, since I’m sure it will come up:

i’ll take list of things that never happened for 500.