Yup and all Cinese domestic brands are all-in-one BEV. Plus Xi has enough power to make combustion vehicles illegal as soon as they can supply an all electric fleet.

Problem is Trump ends up looking bad if he takes a deal.

Xi also knows the auto tariff isn’t important anymore. Once he makes everything not a BEV illegal to sell they have basically only domestic choices since the Chinese auto manufacturers are all in on e-cars.

Lighter, cheaper, easier to package, and adjustable.

Now look at the clownshoe prices... Getting into the 60-70k range now for a nice one.

Read my other replies before chiming in late. You’ve made the mistake of completely missing the point.

The engineering being an active role in the sport is important to keep though. Its cliche, but the “run what you built” is an important piece of the formula. It really only exists in F1 and WEC, so it’s an endangered species and needs protection.

I feel like 50 of the comments I received are taking that number way too literally. What good is a hot take without hyperbolic ambitions?

To be a fun 4cyl sport coupe from an American make. Something unheard of in decades.

Sounds like I need an AMA with GM performance to find out what a hot4 Camaro would do on track vs price.

When I tested an SS 1LE I liked it... The chassis is great. But the SS/ZL1 are just... Too much for street use. It’s all a turned up to eleven nuclear bomb. Sometimes you just want a sword. I want to enjoy driving not do burnouts for a mile. And the V6 car I drove was.... Meh.

To be devil’s advocate... Shouldn’t “the Pinnacle of autosport” be expensive and hard? Isn’t formula 2, 3, and 4 there for customer cars and low budgets?

Or I can do what I have been doing... Shop Japanese and European. 😉

Thats my original point. Making the 1LE available is nice but it would be GREAT if they went all in and shed the “base car” idea to make it a full on sport coupe, it’s 90% of the way there now.

This post is a pretty good sumation of why I don’t buy American cars. They refuse to operate in the niches I like. They get close but then never go all in, and the answer is always “well you can modify it yourself” ... Which is a shitty answer.

How much of the body is aluminium or cf? Delete the back seat, light weight wheels, toss out some sound deadening, all that shit Porsche does... Notice I never said I wasn’t willing to pay SS money.

What we’re in disagreement on is that this Camaro formula is a sport coupe, not a pony/muscle car. Is it the nameplate that makes it a pony car or the formula?

1LE pack isn’t for comuting

I think there is some miscommunication here with my hot take. I’m only referring to the 4cyl car. Putting the track day suspension on makes me desperately want a light weight option package to go with it.

You guys are taking my hot take too literally. I’d by happy with 2900-3000... 2600lb super light (back seat delete, etc...) Would be ideal.