I wouldnt want an M4 though... 😉

Im only talking about the 4cyl turbo car. They put the good suspension pack on it to make it track day ready... It would have been great if they went the extra mile to make it lighter.

Elated is a bit strong. Pleased is more like it.

Whats wrong with unrealistic goals? All engineers should have unrealistic goals to shoot for. I’d be “happy” at 2900-3000. 2600 however would be perfect.

It means I’m sensitive to weight, and FFS the ND is a full 1/3rd lighter than this Camaro.

The $ is all in the interior and tech.

Not bashing just wishing for more.

26 is the ideal. But the 86 is 27-2800, that’s close enough.

Fox mustang is an iron boat anchor.

Should be able to hit 3k though.. my TTS is 3200 and it’s got AWD and luxury car weight on it’s back.

Hey my last car was an NC Miata. And now my “light for it’s size and awd“ 3200lb TTS feels too heavy.

My last car was an NC Miata

Do polls not account for people lying to them for giggles?

They need to strip it though. Still way too heavy, would be great at ~2600 lbs ... At 3300... Sorry I’ll pass.

They need to strip it though. Still way too heavy, would be great at ~2600 lbs ... At 3300... Sorry I’ll pass.

Seeing an unrestricted LMP1 car is a wonderful idea. 😍

Didnt notice that whole conversation was facetious?

Doing what they are doing is “fine” if the scrutineers are ok with it. I’m just saying it’s not something to be proud of (existing solely by technicalities and gaming the rule book), and as an American that’s sad; because I can’t root for a them.

Wow, thanks for letting me know about Penske. Hilariously there is an R&T about the “forgotten team” I just read. He seems to have done quite well from what was a half hearted effort. Makes me even more disappointed Haas doesn’t do more. FFS red bull is a soda maker and thier car is much more thier own creation.

No... The Cunard Queen Mary 2 is.