The other way to think about it… an EV is at its most efficient in traffic. ICE is not. Lines at gas stations will suck, and traffic leaving the path of a storm can be bad enough to consider refueling.

It’s a NP. It’s a little high as a starting point for a restoration project, but there’s a clear line between it’s current cost, the restoration cost, and making money off the car if it’s to be flipped. I’d keep it…and given the price of other “already restored” classics I’ve seen recently, there’s room to spend…

1982 Chrysler New Yorker. It was a car I had access to in Highschool, and loved it. It was super plush throughout the interior, but more importantly was a RWD V8! There weren’t too many other kids that had access to a V8 in my school. It didn’t matter that it felt like it was going to fall over in corners, got single…

Easy NP. Those customizations can be removed. Getting a Z in reasonable shape for less than $10k is pretty good at this point. There are many that are cheaper, but will have miles, or paint issues, or will generally just cost a lot to make nice.

Yes.  And that show is for investors.  All of which want to know how their money will grow.  Tesla needs buyers.

Yep… pretty sure I’d target one without turbos just to keep future complexity down.  That V8 is pretty solid on its own.

Related to a comment from yesterday: anything VW.

I’d probably use many of the same reasons you did…except for the environmental friendliness comment. An EV is so wildly more efficient at converting stored energy to motion that it easily offsets any challenges in production. At this point, you have to be willingly holding onto misinformation to believe otherwise.

Who’s going to buy a $30k vehicle they can’t drive? Or a $30k robot to serve them drinks? Rhetorical of course… Musk is building solutions for his wealthy buddies.

One thing that will always remain true: somebody will preserve the mundane.

Ahh... the “My VW’s were fine!” guy.

I wonder if Toyota was just as concerned about job losses due to robotics when they implemented automations on the lines at their plants? 

Wait... VW’s were “reliable imported cars?”

A decade old VW? Easy ND.

I bought an ‘08 TSX used as a rage/spontaneous purchase to get away from the complete shitbox of a GTI I owned at the time. The TSX was a better car in SO many ways. That car just kept going - my parents drove it and loved it for another 5 years after I got a new car.

It’s such a good car. There are days where I regret selling mine. It was the first (and only) car that I ever kept beyond 3 years...actually keeping it 8 years. And at the time of selling it, there was still nothing wrong with it, and it still looked better than every other new sedan on the market.

I dunno...maybe a car that hasn’t hit everything in SD?

This car could be in mint condition and it would still be a shit box. This was not a good period for quality at Chrysler - the interiors were garbage and I simply wouldn’t trust the powertrain. With this car, there are three different shades of red in that one front end picture, and the rear bumper looks off too. This…

I likely would give it a second look if it was a 250 mile range car. As is, jus not good enough, and too expensive.

I hope it finds a home with someone that wants a weird French car, not someone looking for a cheap car. There are other less interesting cars at that price to slog around Walmart.