We’ll be using slave (prison) labor soon enough for the exact same thing.

It’s always seemed insane to me that the ‘solution’ to the risk of overly intrusive data harvesting by the Chinese government is to try to ban Chinese products, instead of just regulating what kind of data harvesting all companies, whether Chinese or US based, are allowed to do.

Argue and blame all you want, but America (and Europe) has already lost the world market for EVs.

Sadly, after reading a few books about operation paperclip, yeah, a lot of them did. Including Von Braun, who used slave labor at Peenemünde and used it very much like a renewable resource.

Yea? Read the history of the great American steel industry if you want to see what happens to industries that hide behind government import bans and subsidies. Know any steel factory workers? I don’t.

Why not let Chinese companies setup shop here and let American workers (like yourself) turn the wrenches? When that suggestion comes up, people usually start talking about job-stealing and information hackery and all that jazz. Where does it end? Can you imagine how much surplus resources all countries would have if…

This is America. The simplest explanation is always the right one. And the simplest explanation is racism.

Manufacturing jobs , as a percentage of total employment, has been on a continuous decline for the last 70+ years:

You say that like the USA doesn’t spend billions to prop up it’s own industries.

It’s like how Hyundai/Kia get their asses sued off for a 1MPG discrepancy on fuel economy, and the Ford CMax over stated their economy by 10MPG at the same time and gets a pass. Or how GM literally kills people, but “you can steal korean cars!” is somehow worse.

Well, we were 100% ok with it when it was textiles and literally everything else. The big difference here is that there is no American company that’s making money off it. 

Real Americans ® will soon only be driving Ford F-350s that gets 7 MPG while the rest of the world converts to electric vehicles.

Allowing China EV companies in will decimate US OEMs regardless of what they try to do to react.

But hey, at least you got your cheap Chinese shit right?

That’s because we loooooove to outsource our programming to places with cheap labor and just like everything else, there’s no way that could ever bite us in the ass.

This has been in the works for awhile and has actually been pretty well reported on. Heck, some version of it was built into the IIJ act. The problem is a decent chunk of this country doesn’t read/watch the places where that gets reported.

Can’t wait to hear from my conservative relatives how Trump is the only one who can save America by doing a bunch of shit a dem admin was already doing.

Yeah, he’s going to be taking his oath this month.

Considering there were reports of tesla suppliers in China violating environmental laws prior to Elon showing up, I'm gonna say likely terrible 

Yeah, its crazy how things go down. I think they believe a fine will be enough to force compliance but a $10K fine for a parking lot that brings in that much gross income in half a day or 5/6 figure fines for a company as large as Tesla are pennies.