I guess what I'm expecting him to do is show emotions.

I'm pretty sure your confusion about what Lena knows in regards to Kara being supergirl is also shared by the writers.

In my mind I always picture air quotes when Barry says fastest man alive in the voice over.

Well you could make the argument that part of the reason that Cadmus has no narrative weight is because of how much time they've devoted to Mon-El and his relationship drama. Like the episode with Jeremiah's return, should be a super emotionally heavily episode with consequences that really moves the Cadmus plot…

I really, really wish that hadn't made Kara a reporter. It just felt like they were imitating Superman and given that they seem to have almost no interest in actually doing anything with Catco or Kara's civilian identity it would have made a hell of lot more sense to just keep her as an assistant.

Have to agree on the dragging they're break up out a little.

oh my go yes! It's probably one of my biggest pet peeves in television, because it always feel kinda of insulting. Like they think if they went with something more subtle the audience would be too stupid to get it. It's even worse when it involves some sort of plot twist.

Well the show makes it more about him being the prince, then it does the implications of what him being the prince means. When the thing is there all kinda of one in the same. Him lying, being the prince, and the slavery thing are all related but they sort of brush parts of it aside and it gives you a lot of weirdness…

he lied about owning slaves.

That's exactly the reason the whole Kara is prejudice against Daxam thing doesn't work for me because it feels like the writers are trying to argue that Kara is wrong for hating a race of slavers.

You seem to be saying that my argument is that Mon-el forced Kara into this relationship, and what I'm actually saying is yes Kara made the decision, but it is a decision that is wrapped in a lot of sexist stereotypes. Which to me is a problem.

"Kara has been in control for the entire Kara/Mon-El relationship. She is the one that decided to act on her feelings. He didn't wear her down or change her mind - she's the one that changed it."

It's demeaning because it relies on a bunch of sexist stereotypes.

they can, if they don't rely on tropes that are demeaning to women and don't push the protagonist to the background of her own show.

I might be in the minority here, but I really, really hate the Kara/Mon-el plot. It's the same tropey, and slightly demeaning garbage that you see on every other show and for it too be happening on Supergirl, a show that is supposed to be centered on on a female protagonist is just beyond grating.

Yep. I was genuinely surprised that Meredith was so 100% on Callie's side. I could see her ultimately testifying for Callie because they are pretty close, but I felt like there should have been at least a moment or two where she seemed to question her actions, especially after the lawyer brought up the adoptive parent…

I feel like this is another episode that has sort of ignored or simplified the show's(and character's) history and consequentially you end up having some character actions that just don't add up and make you have a "but, wait would about …." reaction to things.

Sorry I guess I wasn't really clear. Penny's reaction makes sense for Penny. I can understand the thought process that lead her to that. But it doesn't makes sense in the context of what else is going on.

Did anyone else think it was bizarre that Penny had a more sane reaction to this then Callie did? Callie asks Penny's opinion and her response is I can't have an input on this yet. Which is nice sentiment for Penny to have but completely nonsensical considering she is smack dab in the middle of this mess. Too late you…

I actually thought Arizona's response made sense, given the circumstances of Sophia's conception and birth. Throughout the pregnancy and the first few months of her life Arizona had no legal claim to her, so I've always imagined she has a super intense response to anything dealing with her parental rights or custody.