I see that you are very caught up on the validity of rape as a means by which to motivate a female character, so please allow me to state it in terms you'll understand for a male.
I see that you are very caught up on the validity of rape as a means by which to motivate a female character, so please allow me to state it in terms you'll understand for a male.
Who the hell has ever argued that Sansa isn't allowed any setbacks? She's had more setbacks than anyone else. The issue is that she cannot make any strides without the setbacks getting worse. I mean, she was raped for what even you say was no necessity but rather to give her another thing to be sad about?
Drogon is a dragon. I don't think he raped Dany.
That being said, yes, it was disgusting that she fell in love with her rapist. The book's depiction was much better.
It's impossible for anyone to answer for a nebulous group of "most people," or "nobody," but I can definitely say that people were disgusted with the fact Dany's scene went from consent to rape. It devalued a great deal of her story.
So your defense of the scene is that it teaches her a lesson. I mean, the entirety of her life has been suffering and misery since she left Winterfell, but NOW she really gets it! Now, with a rape she understands everything!
Who praised them for changing Dany to being raped? What double standard? No one I know was glad for it.
Yes. The only way for a woman to learn to hate a man is if he rapes her. That's completely valid and a totally justified reason to have the character raped. Now she knows he's a bad guy — I mean, she didn't obviously know that before or anything. She didn't see him keep Theon in a cage or watch him at dinner. No,…
Bran's effectively done all of his stuff as of last season, though. That's why he's absent from this one.
I have to say that the only thing they did better was probably with Dany and Jon?
Yeah, that was all pretty hammy…
For worse, clearly. The fact they put a major character there sort of made it seem they were going to enhance her story, not diminish it.
I'm not sure how what you said refutes what I said. In the show, without Doran's plan being to wed Dany, the only value he has is that he wants to help a Targaryen just because?
Brienne could have intervened.
Theon could have intervened.
Stannis could have arrived to start the siege.
Yes, I'm not really getting this "but Ramsay is a bad guy!" stuff.
Thank you for making me laugh. Because this is the most accurate shit ever written.
In Essos, apparently she can? I mean, if your point is "rape is rape" then why would the show need to turn it from her saying "yes" to Drogo just raping her?
Well, sure you do. Since there's literally no reason for them to be allied now?
What good shit do you believe happens later in the books..? I like Feast for its perspective on Jaime and Brienne, but that is all but retconned. Dance was a weed plate if ever there was one.
It shouldn't have been there at all. Her story was already developed and didn't require this.
You have a point, mostly.