I don't think anyone would deny, in some capacity or another, that many white people have ties to slavery and colonialism. How does that inform a conversation about an HBO show?

Welp, nothing brings bitter racists out of their holes like shows that criticize their sacred ideology.

Well, certainly can't argue with that bulletproof logic. Racism solved

Yeah, everyone knows rich white people are the true victims here

Kinda doubt most internet commentators are "ultra rich liberals" with ties to slavery, but…fair point I guess?

I haven't scrolled far enough to hit any racist posts yet, but fair point. Not actually trying to be smug as much as I'm trying to express my disappointment in how people are prioritizing battles against television shows over battles against actual racism. I think it's indicative of a larger trend of people yelling…

Things I learned here: If liberals actively fought real racism with 1% of the zeal and enthusiasm they fight fictional television shows about racism that don't exist yet, Trump would probably already be out of office, Democrats would have control of all branches of government, and law enforcement would be held…

Are people similarly afraid of viewers identifying with and feeling emboldened by the tyrannical Christian rule portrayed in the Handmaid's Tale? Just curious. Likewise, does the potential to make a tiny minority of shitty people feel good outweigh the potential to show a cautionary tale to millions of people that…

I understand that nuance isn't appreciated on the internet, but while we undoubtedly live in an incredibly racist society on every level, to even vaguely suggest that the current state of affairs is comparable to the reality we'd live in if the South had won is dubious and insensitive.

You're a straight shooter, I can't fault you for that

It's a pretty big leap to already assign a thesis statement to a show that doesn't exist yet, especially since the creators have already rebutted said thesis.

By track record, I mean HBO isn't particularly known for clumsily addressing serious issues or inadvertently promoting racism. Game of Thrones isn't known for realism because it's a show about dragons and undead armies and lots of boobs based on books about dragons and undead armies and lots of boobs.

Who? Nichelle Tramble Spellman and Malcolm Spellman? Or the GOT showrunners?

Which episodes have you seen?

I can understand that, I certainly agree that their portrayal of rape and sexuality can be problematic, though I still don't get how people made a leap from that rational concern to, "let's protest and get this show we don't know anything about cancelled"

Doesn't seem remotely plausible given HBO's track record, and the fact that two of the creative forces behind the show are themselves people of color, and that the show is clearly meant to parallel and address contemporary racism.

I do understand the concern, but as of now this is Cancel Colbert-levels of missing the point. The purpose of creating such a show at this point in time is clearly to serve as a cautionary allegory about the current state of the US, much like the Handmaid's Tale. That's never a bad thing.

Are people actually concerned that the show will glorify slavery, though? Like, is that something people genuinely think is possible?

And it's a bad thing to portray this in a negative light?

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on why people are outraged about HBO hiring people of color to write a fictional show about the nightmarish hell we'd all be living in if racist southern conservatism was allowed to take over?