Yes, but my point was that the character of Wally was probably acting sensibly, given how the character of Jessie was being written.

Barry kills himself off this season and the rest of the show's run is about Jessie?

That's not what happened!

I was OK with Joe saying that. He's an old-fashioned guy, and I got the impression it might be more a tradition thing with him - not a great tradition, but I can make some allowances for the old guy.
Iris, though… "you didn't even ask my father's permission?" - as though it weren't just some quaint family ritual Joe…

Honestly, it's not that bad. I think the frustration is more a cumulative thing than the specific episode being terrible. The episode had some good bits, and a lot of bits that wouldn't have really been a problem if we hadn't already seen them ten times before (in one case, literally).

That's impossible. Barry's mother is Iris. [When tragedy means she can't live with the Flash anymore, she goes back in time to marry his father and raise him from infancy until being killed by Thawne (who is really the Flash taking revenge on her for 'betraying' him with his father)]

He's had nothing to do for an eternity of imprisonment other than watch Buffy reruns. The ultimate culprit for all this is clearly watching the "Willow addicted to magic" arc again and again with no way to make his suffering end.

Oh, Iris decided to (basically) kill herself because nothing is more important than… whatever it was.

Barry could have trapped himself in the Speed Force - either out of a sense of duty, or because he was a threat to those he loved? It would make sense. Or of course it could be parallel universes or time remnants or anything really.

Wow - unnecessarily hiding important information that is sure to
eventually be revealed anyway may create short-term relationship drama?
Somebody, quick, tell the other Arrowverse shows! This is a gimmick I
don't think they've used before!

Good point.
Wait, is Supergirl going to go into Birther territory?

I think in terms of dramatic arcs and audience focus, Alex has become the main character this season. In this episode, for instance, it's basically told from Alex's point of view with Kara as a sidekick [although in plot terms everything Alex does this week is superfluous]

You have succesfully out-triviaed me there…

I was surprised that they immediately showed us Johnson snagging the nukes. I'd have thought it would have worked better to have those nukes just hanging invisibly over everyone's head, with the audience not knowing who had them until it became relevent.

Oh sure, let's trust Mon-El's judgement…

But that was on another TV network; and besides, the wench is dead.

It's disconcerting how often that applies, these days…

Yeah, but as I say, it's not BBC English, it's American-impression-of-BBC-English-but-also-a-bit-American.

But they need ome sort of fuel source, presumably? And they do comment that the replicated things aren't that good (food, at least).

(and Jennifer Ehle (from the old BBC Pride and Prejudice) was originally going to be Catelyn, before scheduling problems came up).