Once she found out Ramsay had him she knew he was dead… any implication to the contrary was strictly to motivate Jon. As ticks turned to tocks and the battle grew closer she revealed her truth so Jon could avoid distraction… it didn't work.. he got distracted and well.. the rest is history. I don't think she wanted…

HAHA! Ya… you know what Sansa.. You're right. So hear what.. we're gonna stick you out in the middle of the field as bait… then when Ramsay comes to claim you we will call out freeze… and as he stands frozen we'll chop his head off.

Nobody here like people getting eaten by dogs. Everybody here (well anywhere) likes seeing people get treated the way they treated others. Once you accept that it's a fictional story the rest is about weather you like irony moreso than it is about violence.

I think the Northern Lords may just run independently. The Knights of the vale are not staying… until there's a common enemy ie the Crown… or the WW's why do they need to pledge anything?

A ton of hype and a predictable outcome…

He's gonna make it or he's not… Jon was not going to be able to "help" him… he was going to meet him in an open field in range of archers

His intention was made evident… that doesn't mean it worked. It means that he was trying to do that. Also, just because it didn't work doesn't mean it was stupid… It was just a thing he tried to do… Personally I'd like to have seen "will they want to fight for someone who won't fight for them" resonate with somebody……

I would have trimmed down the shots of dany flying aimlessly around while the city is pelted with fire balls…

Ya… Jon's back from the dead and everyone seems meh about it… It would have been nice to at least see some shocked expressions among the Bolton ranks when they saw Wunwun.

" All of these men rely on his ability to make an informed choice" There's your problem right there… Jon Snow falls A$$ Backwards in to destiny… he has consistently made terrible choices that got bags of people killed… but he skates by. I'm convinced she thought Jon would A/ not trust littlefinger and think she was…

who succeeds in the proud tradition of Maxwell Smart… Frank Drebin and Inspector Gadget

I can appreciate that… It just seemed to me that many people were calling the game at half time so to speak…

I fear/ suspect it's more just a narrative decision to make this distictly Sansa's victory as opposed to Jon's. Winterfell is hers… Jon has other wars to fight, despite being "free of his vow"…. Winter is coming.

Ok.. right after Rickon died… who did not think, "Where The F*** Are You Going Jon Snow??"!!!

I agree… that's probably why I read the narrative of the show the way I did. Fate was destroying Stannis… and the battle scene makes it quite obvious that he has no chance but remains totally resigned to that idea of destiny.

it was the threat of erasing the name Tully from the earth.

We got a "the Hounds remember… who doesn't feed them" moment… if it's any consolation… they did in the end turn on him because of his excessive cruelty… just like roose said people would.

But Hardhome also bennefitted from the fact that nobody was expecting it to explode mid way through the episode. It started very much like a regular (high quality) slow burn episode touching on stories away from where the BIG sequence would come. Unlike watcher and black water which were largely myopic… I think they…

right so the cleverer side was the bigger stronger side and they lost… because…. secret army!!!! again…

Ya the people watching soldiers surround them came off as silly…