Right? And then she gives in and sleeps with him later, which only reinforces his bad, assault-y behavior in his mind.

That's what Juliette gets wrong in her assessment of it. It's not about asking before you make any little move, it's about ensuring before you start that both parties are on board, and then reading the mood as you go forward. You don't have to explicitly ask to touch a boob, but you can (if you're not an idiot or a…

He scares me in this role.

Why is no one talking about how Juliette is tacitly defending rape/assault, then the student tries to basically force himself on her while she pushes him off and says "no, no, no"? I thought that was kind of a big moment.

Welcome to a woman's world!

It was her husband and it was very jarring.

Jesus, tell us how you really feel. Let's try to have a little sympathy. You're married and happy with a man. You also can't have kids, which is upsetting if you're someone who wants them. Out of the blue, his beautiful ex-wife appears, with a child, who she confesses is his, from an affair she had with him, and…

Stop saying that.

I think that was a flashback.

I think it's also likely that Luisa's sensitivity over the fact that she can't have children, then getting smacked in the face with Alison and Cole's lovechild, suddenly and solely theirs to care for is also shaping her attitude toward the situation.

How is Vic great? He's sleeping w/ Helen and living as her tenant and also texting other women "loved our lunch" w/ smiley emojis. Sounds like just another gross dude trying to get some in on the side.

BUT we're still watching it……….

You sound extremely out of touch. Maybe young women feel like victims, bc they are the ones who are victimized the majority of the time. Or maybe you have not one iota of knowledge what rape culture or feeling unsafe is like. Men are men and rapists are rapists, no matter where your daughter attends college.

Ha, I don't know if I'd go as far as to to say Noah's not the sleazy one. After all, he had an affair, lied about it, left his wife and kids, arguably raped Alison, confessed he didn't want another baby, cheated on Alison w/ his publicist, ANDDDDD leered at his own daughter making out w/ another woman at a party. You…

She fired the "woman of color" bc she kept showing up whenever she felt like it, which wasn't ok. She hired a woman of color to replace her so she wouldn't get sued. Take the "woman of color" out, and she was firing an unreliable employee and replacing her w a new, possibly good one.

Ok - how had the rich woman Debs stole the wallet from NOT cancelled her credit cards by episode two?? Not believable. That shiz gets done in the first 15 minutes of discovering a theft. I was also expecting the mom to be the one responding to the Craigslist ad, but whatever.

I just commented that before I saw your comment. :) Really enjoying the integrating of modern music into the "old West".

Radiohead on the player piano at the bar. Yes and yes.

Vulture had an intriguing thought re: this way of thinking. "Is the way we treat other people about them or about us? When we behave with respect or courtesy are we conforming our behavior to the demands of society, or are we expressing something intrinsic about who we are and who we want to be?"

Uh why can't you? If they're portrayed as females, then you can be misogynist, the same way you can rape them and beat them up.