>Additionally, the Walking dead universe has no zombie fiction prior to the zombie apocalypse. So this is all new.

ZOMBIE BOT CANNOT DIE

That is really mean. And also true.

>Why is the government bothering with this weird demi-concentration camp
and providing healthcare to people who are goners, like Griselda?

I was wondering whether they checked the house for zombies.
Then I remembered they're trusting the soldiers say so all is cleared.
Yep, wacky hijinks ahead!

I suspect the writers have many outdated misconceptions that brought us to this point. Thank you for the information.

Someone one the writing staff is definitely confused about what the plot priorities are. This should have played more like a disaster movie. Hell, had they followed the formula of a disaster movie, even a cheesy one, the story would be advancing with more plot coherency at this point.

I shudder to ask. I remember reading it in high school. When I read a film short I was confused: I was sure there was only one man in the story? Are they turning this into a Twilight romance? Wtf?

After reading last week thread I hashed this out in an unscientific focus group(my friends), and the consensus was there would need to be at least a minor simultaneous catastrophic event for this to get out of hand this fast, flood, quake, storm blackouts, at least in crucial areas . Especially since they know…

This. Nothing wrong with the cast or even the characters. But, jeez, there's a difference between reluctant pacifist and optimistic idiot.

Qualified agreement. I don't hate it. In fact the third ep felt like it was going somewhere. Then last sode they did the 9 days later thing and momentum became uneven to say the least. IMHO some of the "hate" is unwarented, but I can't fault viewers feeling they were bait and switched. This isn't the show I…

It works better if we don't actually know what the threat is. Part of the fear is not knowing what to imagine. As it is, and TWD viewer knows, so yeah, not working.

Frankly I'm glad they gave a pass on the garden maze. Every time Alicia walks through there I expect zombies—oops, walkers—to come lurching out for no apparent reason because that is often a thing in TWD.

Re: torture
What is is about people who hold out when the choice is:

I want to know what the Strand guy is in there for. Isn't that for the sick and/or disruptive? Or did he con his way in, thinking it would be the safest place?

IIRC exactly one assault was confirmed, but otherwise, yes, it was mostly hysterical propaganda. As if someone wanted people to have less sympathy for the victims or something.

Lurking days later after finally watching, I wasn't going to bother commenting. But then you mentioned McGann…

It's all good.

The butting heads can be entertaining if they don't drag it out for cheap drama. Contrary to the Social Darwinists, survival depends on cooperation.
But who are we kidding? Every lead actor with a contract is going to "survive" the first handful of 'sodes. There's going to be no real suspense until about the middle…

I wouldn't say she has zero sense of urgency. I think she's hesitant because she doesn't know what she's dealing with. If this is a deliberate character trait, she might be good in predictable situations with training, not shooting from the hip, like her son can. The worst I can say for the character at this point…