I guess it's a good thing that I don't really read opening credits!

I can't remember either, but I suppose she's been hiding out somewhere. I'm actually quite upset I didn't figure out it was her all along, I mean she's always been a terrorist.

David and Abby were great, I enjoyed the weird lightness. Also, I used to dig them together a lot in their time and they still have a nice chemistry.

I loved this episode. I know, I'm as surprised as everyone else.

Was going to write that too. It wasn't even that bad.

I've waited a little before I watched this because it sounded so bad but I actually enjoyed it. I'm surprised the two baddies are dead, though. So that was it? I mean, I'm sure twice as many will show up now, but it feels odd that they've seemed so invincible for so long and now they're just gone.

The structure has been weird so far so that's possible. Not that I disliked this, I had more problems with most of season 4.

I'm a fan, but this was… a lot. I'll agree that's Jake's rightful place though.

I think we'll get there!

Oh yes, I worded it wrong. What I meant is despite the different premise we saw a lot of stuff we'd already seen in some capacity (Mellie stuck in a loveless marriage, a frustrated Olitz fight, Cyrus scheming his way to making a president).

It didn't ring true and it was entirely wrong, imo. Sleeping with the first guy who claims to have your back is something Mary would do, not Elizabeth.

That's true. You usually only get a beautiful, peaceful corpse, whereas here it was really awful and uncomfortable and I got the feeling if Hannah could have undone it she would have.

Present, even future. At one point it's November 2017.

Aged 27, I agree. I've been sitting through it all but most of it felt contrived and juvenile drama to me and only the most shocking scenes ultimately touched me. I'm trying to figure out whether young people relate differently to it or not, but the particular form of bullying experienced by Hannah looked nothing like…

The song they played on the wedding scene (Kingdom Fall by Claire Wyndham) was very Mary.

Bothwell's quite sugarcoated but this being Reign I too think they adapted him pretty well. In case you're interested, Kevin McKidd really nailed him in an old BBC miniseries (he also truly looked the part).

I think even if they do hate Fitz it's definitely not because they ship Olake. I see no love lost for Jake here.

Well, sources say he was a handsome man, of course maybe they were kissing his ass. Elizabeth herself doesn't look like Jodie Comer as far as I can tell.

Guys, going by her picture Ashley Ray-Harris is herself a black woman so maybe we can stop giving her lectures on how her own hair works.

To be fair the review doesn't mention it was the man who had her kidnapped and kept hostage and, once she freed herself, messed with her and slut shamed her relentlessly. Also it wasn't a wheel chair, but that's minor.