On that we agree. But it's not what's happening with the Democratic party, which is focused on courting deplorables and not hurting their feelings, and so POC are not going to be so reliable anymore. And I'm not sure there's a way to appeal to the groups you mention while also being inclusive. I mean, at best, they…

That's what it means in practice. POC notice how mainstream Dems obsess over empathizing with deplorables and shy away from full-throated support of (for example) BLM. They see Berniebros pretending 45's base isn't racist, carping about "identity politics," eager to throw POC and others under the bus so they can…

Democrats need to focus on turning out POC, not appeal to the "white working class" that has exposed itself for what it really is. Remember, black women were the most loyal voting bloc for Dems and white women elected 45.

Even they can't ignore that their president is an incompetent clown. He also has looked consistently weak (from the authoritarian perspective) with the legislative setbacks, court losses, crying on twitter, curtseying for the Saudis, etc.

He's not confusing them. He's purposely conflating them as part of the conservative self-victimology narrative. (You probably know this but I just had to say it.)

They (and the GOP) had no choice once they threw in with Cult 45.

He's one of The Jews.

Conservatives say they love the free market but as soon as its outcomes don't favor them they play the victim.

"Agreed, but there's this weird, reflexive "THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION" response that comes out whenever there's a terrorist act by someone that happens to be Muslim and claiming that they are acting on behalf of Islam."

Upvoted because at least you tried.

Well, in the wake of a cataclysmic event with no scientific explanation, "thinking people" should probably slow their roll on that whole disregarding the divine thing.

It benefits certain people to describe objective reality vs propaganda detached from it as mere disagreement.

It's hardly accurate if you ignore the US's long history of supporting right-wing despots who sponsor terrorism. Or its long history of arming and training radicals who later attack the US. Neocons certainly were (and are) on board for all of that. Getting them to take responsibility for any of it is another matter.

And he also got a flood of donations from people excited by him putting the uppity black guy in his place.

And so it would seem he can like a show even if he doesn't like its political point of view. Thanks for stopping by to prove my point!

I still love his character, though. Glad they stopped making him a moron this season and got him back to being an amoral mastermind.

Phrasing!

24 represents the neocon id. Its worldview can be summarized as: "They are bad, We are good, and so we must do whatever it takes to stop Them."

Also note Dar's lack of self-awareness in calling Keane "distinctly un-American" after he'd been part of a plot to undermine the democratically elected POTUS that led to an assassination attempt.

How was the show critical of Trump? It could have made Keane an incompetent, impulsive, incurious clown and it would be true to life with no artistic license required. Instead she is shown to be thoughtful and serious, if flawed. Also its critique of the Deep State can be seen as a warning to those who want Trump…