It's also usually false and a weak dismissive retreat.

btw thank you for not being a total jerk! Wow, I was about to hang up my comment hat for good after reading some of the stuff on here holy shit. I can only take being called a crazy bitch who makes stuff up so many times before I just gotta gtfo.

*glamorized mostly unintentionally

Not necessarily, just my perception of the events. Being naive seemed absolutely related- how could it not be? 'Wising up' is what made the situation manageable for her. The question of consent is so important, especially right now since it's getting so much attention, so choosing to add a rape sequence without any…

Ok can someone please get this guy to an English 101 class?

I never said that, in fact earlier I specifically said the opposite. Maybe the issue is less about me having a hard time explaining and you having a hard time understanding?

Saying the show is glamorizing or eroticizing rape does not mean I find it glamorous or erotic. If I say something glamorizes taking heroin, that does not mean I find heroin glamorous. Get it? It's not in my and literally millions of other peoples heads.

oops meant to add, the fact that being raped put her in a 'lower' position bothered me. The narrative made it seem as though being raped was her due for being naive, which is soooo awful imo.

I guess it just creates a narrative I find super unbelievable and problematic: girl is forcibly married, gets repeatedly raped, decides to rectify the situation by learning to please her rapist, falls in love with him. Her deciding to learn to please Drogo after consenting (in the book) creates the exact same…

Yeah I didn't put that as well as I could- I mean sexy less as literally sexy, more sexy in the catering to the current fascination with rape in popular culture right now. I think hbo and others use it because they find it compelling. Maybe a bad choice of words. But I think it's murky, you know? I think there is some…

It's less about what she, the character, should have done, and more about the creators' and writers' plot choices. Why exactly did they need to include that? My memory from the books was that she kept telling Drogo no, and after she said yes he really took advantage of her but the dynamic was way less rapey. Not…

Oh come on you know what I mean. I don't have a problem. You can call me out on my poor choice of words but the point remains.

You misunderstand- ok take Carrie for instance, that scene where she gets covered in blood is ugly and harrowing, but it is absolutely glamorized. In it's original depiction, and in popular culture. Not in a celebrity fashion way, but in the way that the image is compelling and repeated.

I'm not trying to pigeonhole anyone, I just think it's interesting and related to a lot of the difference in opinion. Not all, obviously, but it is notable imo.

I didn't say 100%, is said basically. Most, the majority, etc.

Ugly and harrowing isn't opposed to glamorized- the two often go hand in hand. I fully comprehend the conversation here. I just think you're wrong.

Also, I just want to point out basically every lady commenting on here was bothered by the scene, and every dude is defending it to some degree.

I think you guys are missing the point. When something is the norm, it doesn't need to demand anything because it just is. It's quietly demanding it's own perspective by existing as the norm. Speaking against it isn't privileged, it's just the minority opinion so you find it 'whiny' and 'privileged'. I don't really…

What exactly is privileged about her comment? Is being offended by the glamorization of rape reserved for the privileged? I'm confused.

I think his nastiness all stems for his selfishness and self loathing. While imprisoned, he's forced to be responsible for himself- no more daddy to come save him (this is alluded to multiple times), and especially in hanging out with Brienne, he kindof becomes his own man. He gains self respect, which translates into…