It’s surprisingly hard to figure out exactly how much energy goes into making a gallon of gasoline as refineries make so much more out of the oil - but whatever it is it’s a lot of energy to make gas that could just go right into a battery.

I think the only cars/company that have been that badly hacked were Chrysler. I don’t believe Teslas have been so far.

Holy shit a positive article about Tesla from you guys.  Good job.

Porche’s sister company’s current electric offerings are way behind on efficiency and the infotainment is not great. Also, Tesla also makes its own batteries, the “engine” of an EV.

My Model 3, built June 2018. Excellent quality.

Media posts negative things about Tesla.

Electric anything helps.

And how much is your gas per gallon?  It should be about $7-8 without the subsidies it gets in the US.  Also, how much “cancer tax” did you pay when you bought your gas-powered car? None?  That’s odd, they tax cigarettes for their cancer-causing side effects.  Weird, it’s almost like Big Oil gets a ton of subsidy as…

Totally correct, and this doesn’t even get into the electricity used to refine oil into gasoline, which is huge. The estimates vary, but an EV can drive quite a ways on the electricity used to refine oil into gas.

Electric cars, like anything manufactured, takes energy. The difference with EVs is that they stop producing carbon once they’re made, and never do again. Sure power plants do, but the difference between a gas car and a power plant-powered EV is dramatic as far as carbon emissions go.

Electrification is a delicate problem; it’s politically dangerous and Big Oil is trying to stop it at every turn. The best way to electrify the world is to do it via any way that works - and so far Tesla is the halo product for an electrified planet.

Nobody took EVs seriously until Tesla made them compelling and proved…

EVERYTHING needs to be moved off of oil, but sure - pit one electric vehicle against another. That’s obviously what we need to prevent Global Warming.

There is love for the Roadster - in the unveiling he said “S3XY-R” which referenced the Roadster.

Power plants to the grid are about 60% efficient, if I recall. It would make sense for a stationary, long-term structure as a power plant to be far more efficient than a car, right?

Is that sold in America?

The information isn’t from Elon, rather Elon quoted it:

You forgot about the cost of refining oil into gas. Did you know that an EV can drive 100 miles on the electricity that it takes to refine oil into enough gas for an equally sized gas car to drive 100 miles on? That right there is insane.

You forgot about the cost of refining oil into gas. Did you know that an EV can drive 100 miles on the electricity that it takes to refine oil into gas for an equally sized gas car to drive 100 miles on?

You forgot about the cost of refining oil into gas. Did you know that an EV can drive 100 miles on the electricity that it takes to refine oil into the required gas for an equally sized gas car to drive 100 miles on? That’s before the gas car even drives. Before the argument of coal vs. hybrid cars or anything else.

Of course we Americans know what that is. It’s an Audi Q3.