Jinni, that’s what the parents’ suit says. That doesn’t mean that’s actually what happened or that the parents aren’t really really spinning what the executives actually said.

As to whether Crowe’s actions were righteous, it depends on what version of events is true.

I don’t know any more about his than ya’ll. But if only the parents were performing, why was their daughter there? To add charm, elicit audience squees? Personally, I wouldn’t take a child into a setting/situation like this unless I knew she could handle it. Sounds like they were in over their heads, and - personally…

I think they are using their child, after already using her as a prop for their song, to get back for their own self inflicted humiliation.

But would they have had the child sign? I think they were humiliated and are using their child, again, to get back.

It’s hard to feel sympathy for someone who would smile as he signs a health care bill leading to the deaths of millions of people. It’s hard to feel sorry for someone who ordered a raid between the soup and the salad at Mar-a-fucking-Lago, an ill-advised raid that led to the deaths of eight people, including children.…

Yawn. Plenty of people get humiliated on these shows. The expectation of privacy here is less than zero, your expectation is that what you do will be broadcast to the entire nation. “Free Speech” n all that, includes criticizing things you don’t like.

Waits for tape to leak, so I don’t have to speculate.

I agree. We’ll see what the tape shows. But, the bulk of it seems to be the humiliation and subsequent depression. The parents brought their child for that as a prop to their sappy song.

This is an attempted Banks robbery.

I’d say this is on the patents who brought the child as a prop to their song.

WE can speculate all we want to (and we will), but - depending on this couple’s familiarity with the ‘real world’ of show biz - it seems like there were misunderstandings (or plain old ignorance) about how things work on this type of show. That’s one of the problems with these “reality-based” forms of entertainment.…

It really is the best. Because in the eyes of his dumbass base, he looks like a beta cuck, and they lose respect for him.

“How am I being contrarian?” 

She’s a fraud too. “Women Who Work”...uh yeah Ivanka, you mean like EVERYONE’S wife/daughter/mother/sister? Take that face-painted tart and throw her into reality and she wouldn’t last two hours.

but the emails....

Wait. So he’s skipping planned excursions because he can’t take a helicopter all the way to the top, can’t climb stairs without assistance, and saying things he wasn’t supposed to say about Islam because he’s “tired”? And it’s crickets from all those people who were worried about Hillary’s stamina....

And fuck anyone who tries to graft some sort of decency on Ivanka. She supports everything her father has said and done. She is as much a monster as he is.

The fact she keeps rejecting him in front of the whole world is priceless.

She’s almost as worthless as he is. Every one of his past and present wives are complicit scumbags who sit there trying to look pretty while the checks keep rolling in. Fuck him, fuck her and fuck the entire rat-faced brood of them.