This is a Jeep thing we can all understand. (I’m not crying your crying)

Ok.

So OZ and BBS purposely make wheels that bend? Or they make a wheel that is lightweight in construction to improve un-sprung weight that enhances performance which the cost of that is it can’t handle day to day street driving where the road surfaces are mixed? You can’t have it all that is the truth of the situation.…

And I have a 2015 ATS with 225/40 18's and live in Detroit and don’t have any bents rims. They are forged alloy. However any light weight wheel (even forged) are prone to bend due to sh**ty road surfaces and from my experience and friends lower profile is more prone for issues. I wouldn’t put on a factory accesory…

Bull. Poorly maintained roads bend any wheel with low profile tires. Sorry but experiencing this myself and having several friends pay high prices for OZ, and BBS wheels that don’t skimp on quality still bend regardless. To say they are all defective is glossing over the issue of road surface. Unless you are saying OZ…

Well my earlier posts describing this is getting some press..

That powershift transmission really hurt their reliability scores. My brother has a 2012 Fiesta. It was in the dealer more than 6 times for transmission issues before it hit 40k in mileage. Aside from sync, which most car infotainments are meh during that…

I would hands down choose the 4 Runner in most cases....
However buying one in the Northeast is something I wouldn’t do. Yes Cleaner examples are more expensive but they still fail to avoid the issues rust prone for most Toyota 4x4's and trucks in the late 90s and early 2000s. The biggest problem area being the rear…

The interiors of both competing cars were rated lower than the Camaro as far as materials and quality. And as far as looks I didn’t think the 6th generation is ugly.
Dodge beat out Camaro for interior volume, the Challenger is also hard to see out of and has a pretty dismal interior lowest in the pack of these 3 pony…

I was just going to ask you this, was around the Detroit Metro area and saw the only Rusty Mail Jeep that was unmistakably yours. Wanted to here updates on Moab

This has been on the top of my List of cars I want to own for the longest time. From what I can tell with a lot of these comments, I’m not alone on the R32 being one of my personal favorite attainable cars for over 15 years. It still to this day is up there.  

I remember being 15 watching videos, reading articles, and…

hahaha ok. Sure.

Honestly. The only thing I wish they did, and it’s an easy fix, is a heads up display/or some type of related IP in front of the driver. I’m sure you can buy an aftermarket unit but a nice integrated unit would of been a nice option.

This will most likely be my next Car. Right cab aft proportions, bigger interior space, and rwd. Look forward to seeing them on the road. 
So much hate on something that a lot of you haven’t even seen in person yet. Seems about the same overreaction the 3 Series got. People just love to rage and hate on here.

The CT4 will be the smaller model under the CT5 and it’s Alpha Platform, but instead of being 3 series competitor its a 2 sereis/A3/A Class competitor.

Comparing top trim level hatch backs to a base level Luxury Sedan is a disservice to both cars.

One is geared more towards function, the other is geared towards luxury performance. Price point alone doesn’t tell the story of the customers that buy them and what they use them for.

People who buy a Leaf, Bolt, Soul,…

Yeah, Agreed. I know these vehicles will be compared by price point but they are entirely different vehicles as far as what they achieve to do. Not everyone wants a Sporty Luxury Sedan.
And as far as Sporty Luxury sedans that market is flooded with options. Which all drive great. BMW,Alfa,MB,G70... Tesla is the only…

Yeah, sorry about that. I agree that thier union structure works better than ours. Stateside not sure why it’s such a mess.
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t labor unions/workers rights built into the equivalent of our constitution/bill of rights. I remember reading that was a part of their reconstruction after WWII.…

Company unions or not, still doesn’t change the environment in which they sit and the cost of doing Union business in the states. If you are stating that Labor in non Union factories in the states isn’t cheaper for OEMs that some crazy amount of bs to shill. Not to mention that every non U.S. Based OEM doesn’t do any…

I think I’m rather really close, but ok. Ignorance and bias is cool too.

Those are Company Unions, they negotiate wage price but also control job requirements and quality. They are not a separate organization, Germany could be different but Germany has a completely different tax system than ours that can afford people to take lower pays.

That’s besides the point how many German, and…