Unrelated but still a good lyric for this crowd...

“Call me when they put a competition package on a minivan!” 

Seeing it with these wheels makes me see more similarities in the shape and body sculpting with the previous generation.

Same here. I didn’t grow up around smokers, but watched the Winston Cup with my Dad pretty regularly. It wasn’t until NASCAR changed the cup’s name that I realized Winston was a cigarette brand.

Same boat.

That’s the problem!!

You’re right but your argument is that it’s better to just let the M name/brand blend into the mush of soft-roaders and fwd people movers they make these days.

Oh I am aware, haha

Oh yeah, sorry I misunderstood you.

Just an enthusiast longing for products focused on driving experience.

“M” used to mean motorsport, so it has not always been this way. The original 1M was made for racing.

Then seeing how many M-sports they make tells me M is more definitely more focused on the visual(sport)

Does it? Don’t mean to doubt you, but I don’t see that info.

Got it, so M is now mostly an appearance package with slightly warmed over tuning.

The M badges are terrible and are absolutely unacceptable.

Maybe we can hope for a hot Spark??

I supposed, but you are only looking at what’s important to you. (and my comment was about performance models, but lets change the yardstick if you want.)

I drive a Sonic, but I get your point that (really) short gearing is a rarity. 

Makes sense, but in the real world use my 4.27 1st and 4.18 final drive makes this difficult.

Yikes. Enthusiasts poo-pooing more performance options? Where am I right now??