It doesn’t really surprise me though.

More importantly, it doesn’t matter what people would think of him as a person. That’s not how science works. If he has a testable hypothesis and publishes a paper, other scientists can peer review it properly and if it is good science, his background doesn’t make a shred of difference to whether or not it is accepted.

It gets worse. For some reason, I cannot copy the tweet, but then they tweeted that the African villagers were so grateful for the meat.

So instead I thought I’d just work for my father and take four months of vacation a year.

Um...wasn’t Einstein a theoretical physicist?

Not just rich white people, but 1% rich white people.

You know, the only people who have it worse off than white people in this country are rich white people.

There’s a 2013 biography of Manson by Jeff Guinn which is really well researched, including a number of interviews with his actual relatives from West Virginia, including a first cousin who helped raise him. He was a sociopath from the beginning, his mother a teenager and likely father (not the man named Manson who…

“ baby boomers like to big themselves up.”

That’s a perfect description for the — forgive me, it’s all I can come up with — zeitgeist of the whole thing.

There were several kids born out there before the murders. And from what I’ve read, the families they ended up with have done a lot to make sure no one - including the kids themselves, I think? - know their backgrounds.

Yeah - and the children attracted to him were all damaged, emotionally and/or psychologically, and they were usually on drugs, which was the only way he could’ve had such an effect on so many of them. He was scrawny and borderline ugly and I’m sure, to a mentally healthy and well-grounded person with an intact ID and…

Thank you. I’m late to the thread but I wanted to say just this. If they were all stinky, wild eyed, obviously dangerous nutbags no one would’ve joined them out there in the desert. That’s the thing about cults, from Manson to Jim Jones to Scientology. They can clean up good. They know how to look like the thing they…

I think that’s Badass Biker Bobby. Here’s Boy Band Bobby.

The inclusion of that would have been far more interesting than watching the women engage in sex with each other. Why not show how close Manson’s family got to Hollywood? Like you wrote, they made it look like some sort of perfume ad versus a group of dirty psychopaths who were able to use people like Dennis Wilson…

I thought recruiting from the fringes of society was Charlie’s deal? He purposely went for less attractive women because he figured they had low self esteem and would be easier to control.

Jessie J hasn’t got the personality or pipes to compete with Adele, honestly. A big part of it is charisma to go with talent, which I just don’t think she has.

Right? The movie showed a bit of Manson pimping his girls out, but what about him demanding that women who wanted to join “the family” perform oral sex on him and if they didn’t, they were out? Or making that demand on some of Dennis Wilson’s groupies? According to the podcast, one of the groupies refused and Manson…

Right. People don’t realize that Charlie used Bobby Bequsolei, who was very attractive, as a way to recruit young women because he couldn’t do it himself

No, asshole you were the one that ruined your life and ended the life of a woman you were abusing.

Will this never cease to be the truth??