Yep, and it’s not under investigation. We owned it, and it was on the news, and there was plenty of pissed off people. At the end of the day, it was a mistake. It’s war, mistakes happen. Thats much different then a indiscriminate bombing campaign using dumb weapons.

I think we can agree to disagree. The Russian culture is more aligned to us then China, India, Japan, or just about any Asian country.

Nah, current Russian leadership is assholes. Your average russkie is fun as shit to drink with. People are people....

I won't argue that. :). Agreed..

Love yeh like a brother, but I don’t remember the Soviets trying anymore then us to take over the world. You could argue, we tried, and we won.

Whats sad is that throughout history we (The U.S.) have had more in common with the Russians then ever really against them. Generally speaking on the major parts of history, our goals have aligned and not been divergent. I see that in the future as well, one would hope that our leaders would realize that at some…

As a U.S. citizen, I would tell the Philippines to start working on a real military. They perhaps should have thought about this scenario before kicking us out of the Military bases in their country. They cant have it both ways, sorry..

No doubt.. but assuming no shooting war, they still occupy the area and can de-facto institute their will. Thats the problem.

Also - Just because you can see the components doesnt mean you can do anything with it. You can let me spend 200 years with a Intel Processor, i’m still not going to be able to reverse engineer it and create my own clone of it. There is a baseline of functionality that one needs before they could even consider copying…

I think NATO is sincere in wanting to end the war, but I also think they dont have the guts to do what needs to be done. I study history incessantly it’s something I really enjoy. What you have seen in the U.S. is a shift from ‘Win at all cost’ to ‘Win in a way that harms the least amount of people.’. Unfortunately,…

Sure.. We are also fighting Assad. Think those TOW’s that the FSA are using are coming from Uncle Mohamed’s garage sale?

I think your fighting a argument you dont need to. They (Dutch) bombed a Airport, they missed, it happens. Especially when the cluster munitions come down via parachute. You can argue that the Dutch sucked at aiming at shit if you want, but thats about it. It’s also ONE event, whereas anyone watching the news can see…

So, unfortunetly I dont speak whatever language they are speaking in that video. As for the Wiki article, okay, the Dutch droped cluster bombs on a military target and missed. How exactly is that the same as targeting a civilan area?

Precision guided munitions against a specific target is quite different then a cluster bomb against an area target, dont you think?

I have no clue what the reaction of your general Russian is.. I havent seen jack shit reported on it from Western Media, and I obviously am not going to trust RT or Pravda.

You cant compare the two. Apples and Oranges my friend..

You cant compare WW2 to whats going on in Syria. Destroying cities at the time was a valid military objective. The Japanese/German population (especially the Japanese) were part of the overall war effort. I get what the Russians are doing, bomb the shit out of everything, roll in, and occupy the area. The difference…

Not really the same thing. I think the Saudi’s are pieces of shit, we sold them the weapons we really have no control over what they do with them. If you want to argue that we shouldn’t sell them these things, well, I think thats a valid argument. As far as I’m concerned they are not to be trusted.

I think that changes from day to day to be honest.

I dont get it.. If footage was shown on U.S. news Chanels of U.S. forces using Cluster bombs on a occupied city, all hell would break lose. Does your average Russian not ever see this, or do they just not give a shit?