This isn’t about oppression olympics. This is about basic social facts and being able to check one’s privilege. You can’t even acknowledge your own privilege. Not even once. All of a sudden you want to make the issue solely about race, and ignore the gendered aspect?

You may want to check your privilege here. This is one area where women are, without question, treated better than men. When it comes to dealing with the cops, men are seen as more threatening, and are therefore at far more risk of being a target of violence than women are. Women are also subject to lighter…

Yes, that’s true compared to white women. But there’s no comparison between men and women of color when it comes to who is seen as more threatening, and who is more likely to be harmed or killed just for their existence. The perceptions aren’t the same, the number of victims aren’t the same, and your “me too” attitude…

Yeah, I think that’s a major part of it. Men are assumed to be more threatening and men of color MAGNITUDES more so than women of color. That’s just how our society is and both men and women contribute to that disparity. So there’s far more pressure to place men of color into particular boxes to define just how…

Half black dude here. And yes, that’s absolutely a big part of it.

Wow, what a sexist and bullshit comment.

So now you‘re going back top the idea that we pushed for the coup, even though we already know that’s not true at all because we can see that our embassy was assessing the likelihood of a coup from elements within the government. And you’re basing this on the conspiracy theories of an anti-American leader?

You’re all over the place with weird accusations that you can’t back up, and just don’t align with the facts of what happened. If we wweere supportive of a coup then we wouldn’t have brokered a resolution between two Honduran factions that were not acting entirely legitimately. That resolution was the ensuing…

I love the fact that I read these, and I hear his voice saying the words.

I think this was supposed to be a joke. But jokes are funny, so it doesn’t add up. And satire only works when it doesn’t quite sound like something the author would write in earnest. It’s pretty consistent with the usual sanctimonious rants.

And that’s exactly the attitude that brought us Dubya and the Iraq war. Because there are differences between the parties. Backing out of the process only makes it easier for the right to set the national agenda.

You posted an article that talks about our response to a coup—not one we pushed through. And that response was to press for free and fair elections.

This is the biggest lesson to learn I think. The general electorate probably isn’t even paying attention to the debates; certainly not when you can get them filtered from your own point of view from your place of choice on the internet.

That’s not a good thing. Not everything goes back to inequality and wealth distribution. That’s suggestive of tunnel vision, not policy insight.

Ummm, that never happened. I don’t know where you heard that crazy conspiracy theory, but it’s bullshit. In fact there’s text of a leaked cable where the US embassy is observing that internal elements were planning a coup. And that EVERYONE involved was illegitimate. There’s nothing about orchestrating it there.

Look, Kissinger oversaw monstrous policies, no doubt about that. No one should be proud of some of the policies he pursued. I think we have to remember though, that he also helped orchestrate the opening to China (a precedent for openings with other adversaries), and some of his most recent policy recommendations are…

Ok, so liberals will welcome a President Trump, or Cruz, or Rubio, because the Democratic candidate doesn’t pass their bogus purity test?

You have a misguided idea of just how the Presidency works. A President can’t just rule by fiat, and the bureaucracy has a say in what it is going to do. Sanders makes all kinds of promises he can never keep. The problem is, many people believe him because they don’t know any better either. The idea that he can simply…

No question that’s part of it, but you have to realize that the complaint from many Bernie supporters is that she’s not progressive enough. It’s no different from the Tea Party purity tests on the right. And it is self-defeating.

That’s a really good synopsis. I think you’re right that a lot of Bernie supporters simply weren’t there to see the things that Hilary has stood for, AND to contrast that with what a Repuiblican administration actually looks like. They really believe there’s no difference between the two.