I would be curious about if there has been an improvement in Tesla’s service and parts. I actually have a friend who lives literally 2-3 miles from the factory and they have lately been adding onto what’s already an enormous factory. It the former NUMI plant that made my Tacoma. The plant now operates 24/7 and on my…

Reasonable points.

I would love to see actual fire statistics averaged out for the different quantities of vehicles. Ferrari might be a bit high on it though ;)

I think it’s interesting in exactly the opposite way one might think. Compare them back to back, in all aspects, and let each show where it shines. Maybe people will start to understand there's a difference between numbers and "performance". 

I wonder about the Y - looks like price hierarchy will go 3, Y, X, S.  Like you, I feel like whoever holds the mainstream EV torch will be victorious, and no one’s challenged Tesla yet even in its “luxury” slot.

It’s just as fast,

So you on purpose leave out the difference in sizes? Who is the one trying to obfuscate things?

I find it interesting that your proof of logic actually contradicts your statements. Maybe because you got too focused on the price aspect and not at the big picture.

Perhaps its because I live in California but I see a literal shit-ton of EVs. As in not just Teslas but Bolts, Leafs, Prius Primes, Volts, Fiat 500e’s, VW E-golfs, and of course gobs and gobs of Teslas. I kid you not that these days at every freeway exit I will see as many as 3-4 Model 3's at a time. Of course part of…

GM, Ford, VW, BMW, Nissan, and probably every single automaker on the planet at some point in their existence have operated either at a loss or even gone bankrupt. GM lost literally 10's of billions of dollars in 2009. And then they got bailed out. And yet I assume you thought they were a real company.
Tesla has a…

So, like the cost of a couple of options on the Porsche. It’ll be impossible to get one without $30k or more in options (like colors, the good seats, and a little mechanical clock on the dash).

That’s seriously a pretty lame answer. They have three models as well as an additional three in the near pipeline. Hilarious you bring up Lotus, which is more or less a shitty dead British car company.

And pray tell how many people buy their electric cars because it’s fast on a track? Hell Tell me how many 911 owners track their cars versus those who buy them as daily drivers? In the real world, where people go to work and deal with traffic and worry about range and charging, and updates etc. even the model 3 is a…

But the whole “the Porsche will beat it on a track!” argument is pretty much lost on the majority of people who couldn’t even name a track, let alone find one on a map. The VAST majority of Porsche owners don’t track their cars, or care to do so, either.

I think assuming that well off folks don’t care about value is really dubious. I could afford both fairly easily but the strengths of the Taycan-the track ability-seem rather dubious for a heavy 5000 pound sedan. The model S seats more people which I need in a car since I have a kid, and it has much better range. Just…

I live about 15 miles from the Tesla plant. Its in operation 24/7, 365 days a year and so far has produced over 750,000 cars. There are actual people working there too. So pray- tell me why its not a “real” company? Its more of a “real” company than Porsche, which makes cars for douchebags and now shows us a 200k car…

It takes very special circumstances with extreme inelasticity of demand to consider a product from a well-known luxury manufacturer that costs 1.2 times as much “competitive” with a tech company offering at less then half the price.

As a Tesla MS P90DL owner, I would say cost matters for many owners. Lots of owners are remarkably cheap; just spend some time on those same forums/facebook pages and you’ll see tons of penny pinching and cost comparing. Tesla Model S is a remarkably cost effective vehicle if you’re already in the market for a high…

I feel like comparing the Model S vs Taycan is a lot like comparing the Corvette Z06 to the 911 GT3. Yes, the magazines do it and the same arguments can probably be made if you interchange the Model S for Corvette and Taycan for 911. But there aren’t a ton of people walking into a Porsche dealership who were just at…

The Tesla S exists in a very small market segment that has been attracting people from other segments, slowly but surely. I’m not sure anyone without a laser focus, deep pockets, and huge PR machine would even attempt to compete with it directly — maybe ever. How can you even strategize for that? Batteries are getting…