It’s a hot topic that gets clicks. I have a Model 3 and it had a fair amount of quality issues when it was first delivered, but I was also being outrageously picky. Even with that, I still think it’s the best car per value on the market today. It’s so far ahead of almost every other daily driver class of car.

You’re applying sense to a nonsensical fantasy by people that don’t realize that there exist zero other EV manufacturers that can build cars PROFITABLY at Tesla’s price points.

VW is basically getting a subsidy to try to get there by not getting assfucked by the EU for dieselgate, so admittedly they may get there. But…

Show me a 35K model from another company that’s available for purchase.

The Leaf? The Bolt? How well are those doing sales-wise versus the Model 3?

I don’t doubt the Porsche will eat at some sales/force Tesla to drop the price of the Model S or refresh it, but the Model S is plenty competitive, and Tesla has more brand…

Everyone else who knows how to actually build stuff decides to actually build similar stuff as the startup... While doing it better, higher quality, more accessible, cheaper, etc....

-Everyone else who knows how to actually build stuff decides to actually build similar stuff as the startup... While doing it better, higher quality, more accessible, cheaper, etc....

Apparently a lot of people here experience random catastrophic phone failures.

I sit in front of a computer all day; plugging my phone in is second nature. That’s not even getting into the number of warnings and chirps and notification bubbles it starts farting out when the battery gets to 20% or lower. Hand-to-God, I cannot remember the last time my phone died somewhere other than in my house.

IMHO people, especially journalists, have a well established track record of focusing on non-issues when it comes to tech and ignoring things that might actually be dangerous. But, I think part of that is the instinctual fear of change that so many of us have and catastrophic thinking is the default because of it.

Oh, well, if someone already said it, then sure, it’s now settled.

911 enthusiasts can be the biggest cry babies. If it were up to them, Porsche would have gone out of business 20 years ago.

The 911 would be an absolute hoot if it drives like it currently does and 0-60ed in 2.5 seconds. Electric cars are a future to be excited for.

Huge 911 fan, and someone who has driven pretty much every iteration/variant of 911 from 996-on, weighing in here.

it’s got to avoid diluting its identity, which is—especially in the case of the Porsche 911—inherently linked to internal combustion engines.

Sport cars should have a version of their cars that incorporates a hybrid system that adds performance, not just weight and lethargicness; like most hybrid versions do as compared to their gas power counterparts.

I was there with you before I drove it. I thought the location of the speedo and lack of gauge cluster would annoy me, but it didn’t. I got used to it almost immediately.

You should probably sit in the car before you comment on the user interface. There are no little buttons on the steering wheel. The volume is controlled with a physical scroll wheel. About as conventional as you get.

Yeah, I’d say Tesla is toast.

Well, automobile means something that moves by itself or, if you will, under its own power.

I coulda sworn the Bolt was an automobile.

Also like Kristen, I’m also not ready to have this as my only car, and not just for charging and range reasons. I’d miss engine noise, shifting gears myself and all the other irrational things I love about internal combustion cars.