No, we just got a poorly executed movie. Choppy action scenes, clunky pacing, stilted dialogue. It’s just not a good movie. The story itself was fine.

The best thing that could happen to this franchise is for it to be taken out of the Wachowskis’ hands. Like I think everyone agrees it’s a rich universe with the potential for tons of lore and world building, which means the potential to keep the story going, but… look, the Wachowskis are terrible writers. I’ve seen…

The sequels are fine, and do a good job of developing the ideas introduced in the original. I don’t get this kneejerk assumption that they’re bad movies.

The meta factor reached intolerable levels for me when as The Merovingian was leaving, he said something about seeing Neo again in the sequel/reboot/spinoff (or whatever). I can understand knowing you’re in a simulation, but he more or less shattered the entire fourth wall and ate it.

Yuen Woo-Ping was the action choreographer on the first three (Same as Kill Bill later). John Woo didn’t direct anything.

At one point it was quickly stated that there was a war between factions of the machine world, with the new faction destroying the old one that made the deal with Neo. I presumed that the AI of that new faction is what NPH refers to as “the suits”.

Anthony Zerbe’s character has an entire monologue in the second movie about how Zion is as dependent on technology for survival as the Machines are dependent on humans. It’s not a new idea.

Going into the film I wasn’t sure if they were going to stick with the original wire-fu fights or something more modern like the John Wick films.

I’m not sure if I love it or only so so yet, I’m still digesting it.

No on Yuen Woo-Ping. But one of the choreographers it did have worked on all three John Wick films. Another, and the editor, worked on Sense8, which was much clearer (and frankly cooler) than this, despite the potentially confusing “body switching” conceit. It’s frankly bizarre how poor the action in this is, given…

This movie was rough, and it’s meta commentary was as clunky as that jittery slo-mo we had to watch every couple of minutes. The character’s motivations made absolutely zero sense and yes, Neo and Trinity’s actions in the trilogy ultimately meant very little. Bravo.

I agree.

At every moment, the movie felt and looked “cheap”, which was made all the more jarring because we all know how expensive the movie was.

It gets even worse when you consider the visual quality of films that we’ve gotten since the original trilogy. The standards are much higher, not just because of how…

I didn’t like it, for many of the same reasons you brought up.

Visually, the movie felt really cheap. The color gamut was odd, the CGI was bad, and the fight choreography was absolutely dreadful, as though Paul Greengrass was directing it. I thought to myself, at the end, was there a single shot or series of shots that…

>Was the point that “the one” was actually Neo and Trinity together all along? It kind of fits with what I remember of the Oracle’s proclamations.

I thought that was them just copying Trinity’s mind into Bugs. But yeah, after rewatching it, I think I get it:
Bugs is plugged into the Matrix at the same time as Trinity, with Bugs serving as temporary host for Trinity’s consciousness, hence the flickering. Then Trinity is plugged into a synthient, who is presumably…

yeah but the Analyst clearly wasn’t above being cocky enough to believe he could make it work regardless. I do wonder who the “Suits” are. 

I think there was a good movie in there, I think the editing could of been a bit tighter and a few bits cut which pulled me out of it.

Mainly, I’d drop all the flashbacks, for example the scene where Smith’s mouth starts closing up would have had more gravitas and “did that actually happen” to it without the flashback.…

The Analyst very clearly explained that people who are scared or angry produce more energy.

The cinematography (and all those damn ‘godrays’) made me feel like I was watching a high budget TV movie.

Congrats, this was actually worse than the movie.