*sees headline, picture.

Parallel park that thing. I dare you.

It looks like some chimera between a small car front end and a much larger car’s back end. Pretty big hips on this one.

That is not an attractive automobile. Just looks like a thicc cross between a Flex and Tiguan made from a block of clay. Monoblocks can’t change that.  

I really hope you are right, and suspect you are. That number on the web site seems impossible. That number is 1,200 lbs heavier than my Volvo S60. Can’t be....

As William Clavey pointed out earlier in this thread: “It’s all right here man”

It’s there on my S9 (Metro PCS)

(ooof, that was a rough one)

It is displayed right there on the driver’s side rear quarter panel in picture #2. That said, closeup please. Can’t get enough of the Gremlin 8^)

I love how, if you go to the dealer page, they have this thing oiled up with ArmorAll like a it is half a WWE tag team.... But the tires are clearly low.....

HOW? How do they not give a close-up of the very best feature? Maybe the best logo in all of cardom:

Counterpoint: No they should not,

Was this a trick question?

It is interesting to see the under carriage of a Wrangler with no rust. I picked up my JKR when it literally had 1 mile on it, and the paint on the diff was already peeling. It had rust spots within weeks....

Toyota Tercell! Great snow car.

Short term, yes. Investment, no.

Came for this, leaving satisfied.

Interesting question. I would say that the difference between a Model T and a 1948 Ford Super Deluxe was a pretty big jump. Maybe car development slowed down because they were simply pretty much good enough. Aircraft were not good enough. Also, their role in the military, and working toward air supremacy, is a really…

Damn. Life is hard enough without taking crap like that from random strangers. I’m so sorry... You are much stronger than I would be.

As recently as the 2015.5 model year, S60 had an inline 5, 2.5 l turbo (T5 when “5" meant something). Great engine.