Do you work hard at being this anal, or does it come naturally?

So, maybe you’d be much happier with an MG Midget then, amirite?

It’s a VERY safe bet that I’ve had more performance cars than you, including dedicated autocross and SCCA cars, as well as a ton of daily drivers, including many that people consider sports sedans.

So, what’s ‘small’ to you?

As noted in my response to RogerThat above:

You don’t need to ‘check the alignment every year’ on any car.

“ ... with tesla’s being computers though, how many people keep a computer for 15 years? ... “

I have no idea what you mean by ‘second party’ or ‘third party’ suppliers.

ZF isn’t the biggest Tier1 supplier - they’re number 5, outsold by Bosch, Denso, Magna and Continental, and just barely ahead of Aisin Seiki, so not even close to coming to fruition.

Maybe it’s time he tried adulthood?

You forgot the DHS, the Homey Touring Sedan ...

You missed one - it was in the E150 van too, at least in’97 when I leased a conversion van at $199/month with $500 down for 24 months!

So, you want the frames to rust in half?

My neighbor had the convertible model, which was actually quite unique and would command a higher price than a coupe, but yeah, it’s not like it’s a Camaro, Mustang or Vette that likely will eventually be worth that by historical standards.

Fun fact - sedan sales at Hyundai, Kia, Honda, Toyota, and Nissan are all way down too.

Hey, tweener boy - the ‘real people’ commercials are for Chevy - if you’re going to make idiotic clueless comments at least get the brand right, ok?

I actually specifically looked for the eAssist hybrid - 25K miles a year and averaging 29.7 makes a huge difference in fuel cost and emissions compared to the 3.6L that averages, what, low twenties?

You do know that actual adults have no clue what in the world your meme is supposed to mean, but that’s OK.

I had one as a service loaner once - it’s actually drives and handles pretty well and the interior is far, far nicer than entry level CUV’s.

The 2014-2016 look NOTHING like the first gen ones and the mid-cycle refresh made it look far better IMO than the 2010 to 2013: