Yeah, if he kept his original motion, he’d have gone right over Bridgewater. Contact in that case (if it happened at all) would’ve been minimal and understandable. But Joyner literally changes direction after the slide is started so that he hits higher up.

All I see is a man taking a well-earned nap after busting his ass for a first down. Nothing wrong with that.

If the league can’t permanently bar a guy who paid his employees to injure the employees of other teams...we’ve got bigger problems than the league’s shit enforcement policies.

How anyone can view this as a “you be the judge” case is beyond me. What if this hit was on Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or Ben Rothlesberger, or Phillip Rivers, or Cam Newton, or Russel Wilson, or Tony Romo, or Matthew Stafford, or any other QB?

Sliding feet first is him protecting himself. As soon as he starts his feet first slide all contact is prohibited. That’s half the point of it. He’s sliding in the most obviously vulnerable way possible making is extremely obvious he’s given himself up and can’t be hit.

Agreed. Rice fucked up badly, but I think he has realized it and tried to move on from it, while also speaking against domestic violence. I remember seeing an interview where he said “I can see why people kill themselves.” Seems like he was in a dark place after that incident. Hardy has shown no remorse and seems like…

I have absolutely no dog in this fight (I’m a Browns fan), so I’m assuming you are a Rams fan? That was basically the definition of a dirty play. He didn’t even launch until after Teddy’s ass was already on the ground in his slide, and then he coiled up and went head hunting. The only way he could make contact the way…

When I first saw it, I thought it might have been a “it was too late to do anything” plays. But you can see the guy shift his body *not* to avoid contact. He might be sorry he knocked Bridgewater cold, but the hit was no accident.

I’m trying to figure out how a coach who was known to put paid hits on opposing players could even be allowed back in the league.

What seals the deal for me is he makes a step back - not toward where Teddy is going, but where he already is, which was “necessary” because he gave himself up. Bridgewater didn’t run to the spot he was aligned to. I think he’ll get suspended. I used to ref hockey games - yes slightly different - but you can’t say you…

No one speaks for Drew, but I think he likes to pastime differently.

That was an awkward way to go in for a tackle if he didn't know he was going to slide.

Jesus, man.

Preface: I have no dog in this hunt.

To be fair, while he obviously did a horrible thing, Rice has actually shown contrition and remorse. I think he realizes how wrong his actions were, but they also seem more isolated than the half hour of terror that a visibly insane Hardy inflicted on his victim.

“If we were out on the street, we probably would have had a fight,” Zimmer said.

As a neutral observer, let me say fuck anyone that spells Greg with a third g.

Just as soon as domestic violence ends. Shouldn’t be long now.

What’s the point of continually speaking out against domestic violence?

“He was mostly invisible on the night.”