lol!

There’s no need to activate any of the radars in the site, they have a lot of other radars deployed there, AFAIK. Not to mention the Syrian IADS or whatever is left of it.

But who is your friend and who is your enemy? :P

They could have been orbiting directly below the Su-24 also, but I don’t think we’ll know for sure unless Turkey says something...and they probably won’t say anything else other than “LOL Russia suxx hurr durr fuck the Kurds”

The missiles have long legs and its got a decent radar...

“How would they have approached from the rear given the seconds the Su-24 was in Turkish airspace given this map?”

“black males”

Its a picture of the SPO-15/L-006 Beryoza, probably from LO or DCS (which are great sims, btw). Its an outdated RWR now though: Russia is currently producing the Pastel RWR (better known as L-150, IIRC someone had an SPO-xx designation for it too) which is roughly comparable to your average Western 80s/90s warning…

The Su-24 has an older IR MWS...the AIM-9 has a very low smoke motor, burns for maybe 3 seconds...

Well, mass TALD/MALD spam and a lot of HARMs want to say hello.

It depends on the elevation angle, not sure what the newer Russian RWRs (Pastel, for example) are like in terms of coverage area, but the older L-006 has a +/- 30 degree vertical detection area...a very close range missile shot fired from below or above the aircraft isn’t entering that zone

Think about it, its a fucking AIM-9 or AIM-120, both have very low smoke trails (9M/X, all 120 variants), and the Su-24 has VERY POOR rear visibility. Its entirely likely that an F-16 would be able to approach a Su-24 from a rear quarter without counterdetection.

lmfao

I think I’m gonna have to get that one. BTW, we trained ‘em. ;)

Hah! I’m imagining you sitting a desk with a stack of CA mags next to it, a pile of military books, and a B-2 model sitting on your desk.

I actually busted out laughing at this one!

Guess: This was a Su-24MR electronic intelligence jet, not a fighter, not a bomber...just a 1980s relic that they can’t replace. ;)

The US has brakes that work.

Yeah, and it only took them 20 years to get it in service!

The truth...comes in sizes ranging from 122mm to 203mm!