After careful thought and reflection, I have come to the realization that The Last Jedi was in no way good enough to warrant this kind of examination.

I agree, it’s like because Trump is president now, we’re all supposed to be ok with acting like the joke of a 3 year old is funny.

But it wins elections...

Lol.. it took until the very end of the second movie for Poe and Rey to erven meet! This was just so poorly constructed it’s amazing it was even made. Even more amazing is seeing the shit people will happily gobble up if you start it with a slow wall of text and give it a John Williams score.

I agree my biggest problem with the movie was the treatment of the characters who ended up doing uncharacteristic things.

People keep bringing up this is a movie about failure to somehow shield it from criticism because it somehow is breaking new ground... but Empire was about failure. In fact I’d say Empire is even more about failure because they actually failed. Han captured, Luke defeated.. you know failure. People died in Last Jedi…

I regret not getting up and leaving when Leia flew off.

It’s also a tortuous, non-sensical, and overly-complicated way to do that.

I didn’t like it either, but I feel totally justified. It’s written poorly and there are big sections that drag, but also, I was mad that TFA was a straight reboot, and I’m mad that TLJ goes in a direction I didn’t want. I mean, whatever, lots of SW fans do like it. But I wanted something so much more from these new…

Ya, I was wondering this too. You’d be hard-pressed to find a bigger Star Wars dork than me, but I don’t remember Han’s golden dice. At all. Not saying they’re not in there, but if they are, they’re so minor they escaped my 10,000 viewings, and RPG-playing, and novelization reading, etc.

But the OT STar Wars doesn’t have these big throwaways. The cantina scene is a better scene generally, but also introduces Luke to 1) the outside world 2) Han Fucking Solo 3) Obi-Wan’s badassery.

But then we get to Crait and he’s still the one making all the decisions, even with Leia right beside him. Poe didn’t learn shit.

Or just not have the mutiny subplot and use that time to further develop other characters.

By the time this scene happened I had already checked out and was joyfully pulling on the threads of awfulness and thought the same thing. If one ship can lightspeed destroy and entire fleet why are they just shooting lightspeed ships at each other?

It shouldn’t drive you nuts, and you shouldn’t be mad at yourself. As a lifetime SW fan myself, I can assure you: you aren’t the only one who thinks this way. The movie is not good.

I’m trying to put a cost figure on the “milking” scene, and why it was done in the first place.

Thank you. And I’m very sorry you went through that. I’ve been cheated on before but thankfully only in already short relationships so I got over it easier. If my SO of 9 years did that I’d be utterly devastated. Like you said I’d much rather if they just openly admitted to wanting to split up over cheating. So many…

shit if that’s how he “cares” for his family I’d hate to see what he does to people he doesn’t like.

Hey even the mother of Jesus was unfaithful

I didn’t elect that orange shit show