I actually agree with you but assumed everyone would start flaming me for ignoring it. I think the new Z actually has a shot at becoming collectable one day.

The new Z is not currently offered. That being said, what is likely one of the last cars of its kind to come out of Nissan, it may yet prove collectible one day.

Every current US offering from Mitsubishi and Nissan (except GT-R).

I wasn’t making a comparison, just pointing out how silly it is for the anti-EV crowd to complain about pollution caused by lithium extraction/refining, when oil also regularly creates ecological disasters.

It doesn’t, but a lot of anti-EV people love to point out that battery manufacturing is terrible for the planet while completely ignoring the impacts of drilling, refining, and transporting oil. An oil spill is a reminder that their argument against batteries applies to their own position as well.

A not so gentle reminder to everyone who says mining/refining lithium is so much worse than oil.

What did you do to your Land Cruiser to make it weigh 8000 lbs?

No adjustable seat? Given my height that would make pedaling a chore.

That’s the beauty of marketing. SUV as a term did not exist in the 80's so Subaru gets to put their stamp on the “sport utility wagon” merely by being the first to call it that.

Yeah but it wasn’t until the 90's that they were claiming to build the “first sport utility wagon”

I love e30's but for $23k I could have it done my way, not someone else’s.

There are actually quite a few cars that are on my list that are objectively excellent but I will never own. Sometimes they have to do with the image of owning such a car (e.g. Tesla Model S, BMW M4), but it usually comes down to the fact that there are some cars I would rather own. For example I’d rather keep my 14…

I think people keep forgetting about it. 

Agreed, but I am primarily taking a jab at Subaru for claiming the Outback was the first “sport utility wagon”, an image that is the foundation for their current success.

Actually, Daimler had the Jensen beat on AWD by 59 years.

And predated Subaru’s entire reason to exist.

And where are the side mirrors?

It is the Corkscrew but the shot is taken from the inside of the initial left hander at the top of the hill, at an elevated position, using a wide angle lens. The left hand apex is off frame to the right. It does look weird though.

And 900 of them at that.

...into the ambulance that will eventually take it to the hospital.