Hopefully that fake grill nonsense front and back remains just a concept. This car would otherwise pass as a daily driver without too much styling noise of the Type R.

Needs mix of knobs for basic controls like volume and mute plus touchscreen. However that only works if the screen is fairly close unlike the Lexus setup which is more eye level and far away.

Guess just like how people underestimated the “black” and younger crowd vote for Obama in 2008. I certainly blame alienating uneducated rural whites helping to reinforce all this BS going down. I don’t know if the major corporations thought marginalizing factory workers in the rust zone could have such an impact down…

1. Cayman 987 gen 2

If it hits 40K, I’m good with a Cayman 987 or probably a 2014 981 used. This thing is too loud and all that mesh actually functional? The back is too crazy even on regular models. Nothing svelte about it. And watch out, the PoPo be pulling ya over

So as others have pointed out, gaming is just the new way to spend your leisure time versus watching reruns of some sitcom.

The traditional view of running around and throwing or catching a ball has to somehow require more intelligence needs to go. If we are going by your logic, the Korean Starcraft players are the real “athletes.” They look like they are dealing with the most complexity.

I’ll have to wait for CPO on a Panamera 4. So maybe 4 years from now. I personally will never buy a brand new luxury car and let someone else take the depreciation hit.

I had that Civic before. Good MPG if not driven hard. Honda engine goes for twice the miles if treated right.