What is the fair market value? The sheer replace-ability of cheerleaders seems to suggest that this is their market value. I mean, I don't even know what their skills are...

Calm down, there. To be fair, you liking what you are doing and refusing to improve your own situation by leaving that job does not compel an organization to to go above and beyond the minimum standards of the law.

I think a lot of people forget that the company employs a person for their value, not because they are compelled to. Labor laws exists to help the helpless escape unsafe working conditions. Choosing to become a low-paid, objectified cheerleader does not even remotely apply.

I'm not sure this is as black-and-white as you make it seem. Or maybe I'm confused by your post. Your boss/employer/company absolutely has a say in your appearance as it reflects on their image. If you look unprofessional in their eyes, there is a problem.

Dude, are you really getting this fired up about cheerleaders?

True, but frustrating to me. I like to have answers.

Yes, over half his GS titles are on clay. But if he wins Australia, he has two of each other slam. That's still extremely impressive. And let's not forget that he has plenty of Masters titles and smaller titles on other surfaces, as well.

Maybe it can enter certain discussions like overall consistency, streaks, etc. But Nadal has won 13 slams and has an extraordinary W-L %, even with injuries. I don't think "durability" is useful as a criterion for greatness.

This. SOS is useful in sports like basketball and football. Why not tennis?

Good point. But... yes, I would think more highly of Safin if he had greater success against his peers, which would make me think more highly of Federer for having beaten Safin. Maybe that seems a bit circular, I don't know.

Changes in technology have obviously led to changes in strategy, but I also feel there is a marked difference in innate athletic ability/training. The consistently top players nowadays are better conditioned and, I would argue, more physically gifted. Hitting harder balls with more spin requires more running,…

Yes, Fed's streaks are pretty remarkable. No debate there. But I just don't think we can compare Nadal's lack of streaks to determine relative dominance because injury played such a large factor.

As I said in another post, I'd like to see strength of competition quantified so that we can see if the numbers really say Federer was beating up on a weak field.

But how telling are streaks when they are interrupted by injury, as opposed to losses? I wouldn't count that against someone, therefore I wouldn't count it for another.

I'm legitimately interested in seeing the strength of competition quantified.

She must practice those faces in the mirror. Does she take requests?

that'sthejoke

Seriously. The complaining is much more annoying than the actual video orientation.

Shouldn't you two be arguing about the GOAT with cherry-picked stats and clever nicknames (e.g. "Federina", "Butt-Picker")? This civility is unnerving.

Ha. Not sure why I got so worked up, to be honest.