im not so sure thats an option as well given how shallow those waters are.

if the LCS wasnt such a sack of shit this would be the territory it was designed for

because making a flat top a sitting duck is a brilliant military strategy.

I’ll field that.

yes, its entirely within the Us’s capability to destroy those Islands. however to do so is going to be hazardous work because it extend’s China’s military arm to well beyond their borders, and they can stuff those islands with as much anti-ship and Anti-air equipment as is physically possible to make…

Paul pretty much nailed it on the head. even if the weapons werent stamped, we are the only nation in the world with that sort of capability.

not to mention they would need a launch vehicle of some sort and that is easily traceable with Sattellites

NARROWEST you uneducated fuck! Christ almighty

the issue is i genuinley question wether or not they are smart enough to keep their finger off the trigger.

it doesnt even need to be firing on a US ship. if they open fire on any American allied Nation in those waters, its an Act of War which drags the US in by treaty (if im not mistaken, please correct me if i am)

I don’t quite understand the reasoning for a “sea base.” It seems to me from a military perspective it wouldn’t offer anything superior (and indeed would be much inferior) to the “land bases” we already have in the Philippines and Singapore.
because our basing options in the region are limited, and still a distance…

if not for the fact the US has major ties both economically and Militarily to the region, you would have a point.

as such, let me explain to you how this scenario will go do.

1. China claims all the sea in that region
2. allied nations continue to send their own civilian fishing and shipping vessels into the region…

extra $$$ genuis!

controlling the water controls who goes through because they now need chinese permission, and they are then in a position to demand whatever the hell they want to keep the world spinning

in recent history? i cant think of an example, but thats kind of how the US wound up with the western part of Texas and other states. in the interest of fairness

no, they claim everything in and around those waters extending back to the mainland

you mean like how we call the Gulf of Mexico such even though most of the gulf is bordered by the US?

the name is only a name, and has zero to do with territorial rights. what china is doing is illegal, plain and simple

which means exactly dick. our bases are either there by invasion (iraq afghanistan) or by request and agreement between the host Nation (everywhere else in the world).

the Chinese literally built a bunch of islands out of scrap they hauled from the mainland, and are now claiming they count as territory though they…

no you nailed it right on the head. the legal status of those island is inconsequential to the bigger picture, its what China could do over that swath of territory thats cause for true alarm

ahhh, how very small minded of you.

this is an enormous concern on multiple levels because of just how tied the US is to every nation in that region save North Korea.

China is pissing all over every American ally in that area, as well as Vietnam which has come to the US for help in recent months as a result of said…

because sadly the Kim family is a stopper in the total disaster that would be the collapse of the whole nation. they are so far behind the times now, so down trodden that simply blasting the leadership would toss the entire world into economic chaos as we are suddenly forced to take on millions of uneducated,…

shit happens and sometimes such weapons need to be brought out.

its unfortunate that it’s happened in the past, but id rather a leader who is willing to push that button after all other options have been tried and failed rather than one who wont consider it at all.

yeah see how well that worked in Iraq?

and Iraq was lightyears ahead of the North in terms of self sustainability. hell AFGHANISTAN has a leg up on the DPRK if we ever decided to just knock the Kim’s off.

its a valiant idea, but a bad one in the end just because thats a sudden and massive drain on the world economy…

Not Just Seoul, but a good chunk of South Korea is under direct threat from chemical capable Artillery.

if they get so crazy as to pop off the nukes, it seems reasonable to assume they’d unleash all their special weapons in an opening strike, try to wound the South as badly as they could be fore the US squishes them.

1. ok so we have an t limiting factor right out the gate that will not be the focus of any major manufacturer.

2. its not just building the car thats the problem, its the horribly damaging process of mining the materials that make up the battery. most of which come from China who gives exactly zero fucks about…