if you had half a brain youd realize that active sonar is RARELY used by submarines. kind of a dumb idea to give everyone within a huge area your exact freaking position you damned hippie

oh, and to explain the AMC Eagle thing. they were technically the first crossovers but are backwards from current ones in terms of setup. your modern one is a SUVish body slapped on a car chassis and drives like a car, the Eagles were literally cars from the main AMC line with Jeep drive lines stuffed under them…

somewhat ironically, i personally think the company would go further if they backpedaled a bit and stayed within their own heritage, albeit somewhat modernized to keep up with most current technology.

got it pretty well layed out if you feel like reading a ramble

oh, in that case i have no bloody clue and ill shaddup.

its also in case the Syrians want to get stupid that day and attempt to interfere with our operations by sending up interceptors. remember we are bombing the shit out of targets in their own country without a formal agreement on the matter.

its not just that, its a company wide reduction in actual offroad capability.

sure the cars are all technically more capable than their competition. but its never been about “more capable than other cars” its been “as capable as we can possibly make them while retaining some level of on road driveability.”

they are…

never said i didn’t get it, i just consider it to be utter bullshit and for the life of me i cant figure out why they sell.

yes, its a personal thing. that thinking is killing off the Jeep brand in an alarming rate.

YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!

i can argue with but at least see the logic in your statement.

and modern crossovers are just an attempt to avoid cafe regs that for some reason caught on with Consumers.

yanno, i could be wrong. the hunchback thing does it for me.

yeap. not a fan. not really a fan of current BMW’s to begin with.

this is more or less my entire plan to bring Jeep back from the dead.

its also them preying on the stupidity of the masses.

its a Mini, the only reason they slapped a BMW badge on it is because your average consumer is a fucking moron and is willing to pay christ knows how much more over an already expensive compact car just because it has that badge.

i mean FFS, at least the last one…

read the article, 8 speed auto and you can see the patter for selsection atop if you zoom in. its a slush box

you mean like how they did on Top Gear?

ummm, so so wrong. the grand coups are fucking ugly, in every sense of the word and some that arent polite to say even on the internet anymore.

secondly, wtf is a “grand coupe” anyway?!

you have also completely missed the point.

it WAS unique, in that it was the only FWD BMW sold currently. now there are two, so by definition its no longer unique.

in laymens terms

you have also completely missed the point.

it WAS unique, in that it was the only FWD BMW sold currently. now there are two, so by definition its no longer unique.

in laymens terms

what do i think? its a more expensive version of a car that already pretty damned expensive given its selling bracket.

aka, people who buy this are morons.

also; FWD, REALLY BMW?!

HOW HAD NOT SEEN THAT YET!?