you'd figure the NISMO would have better rubber

i said closer to, not all the way there, im betting somewhere around the 180k mark. which puts it in R8 V10 and 911 turbo turf based purely on price. and thats also going to be the rough ballpark for the C8, Zora, ZR-1, whatever the hell its actually called Corvette in a…

50 HP gap minimum, the GT is going to be substantially lighter and with some debate, the more hardcore drivers car. id also wager that this road car and race car wont be too far apart save required equipment.

kind of like a Z06 Vette and a 911 Turbo. the Vette will eat the Porsche for breakfast, but the 911 is the…

dude, its been hyped and over hyped. hit all of the major show circuit, the Superbowl, the Avengers, it got overplayed and badly so

that one utterly shocks me. hell, we knew the C8 Corvette was official before anyone saw the GT!

absolutley impressive coming from Ford, and the proper way to do a teaser. drop a few small hints, let the internet whip into a firestorm of speculation, then floor them all when the rumors dont hold a candle to the actual…

i eagerly await that road test, most because i cant wait to see the GT stomp it into the ground with its raw Murican Awesomeness!

it was teased as far back as 09, debatably as far back as 07

the fact its even still a question is proof to the point.

id be willing to bet money that Ferrari is behind getting the Viper program canceled.

that's fine though, the entire factory team has been brought up by a private team and will be back at racing. so yeah, Le Mans in 2016 will be the GT, the Viper, and the C7 thundering through France while the Europeans scream in…

Clarkson did, if you want a high profile case, when the first GT came out in 05.

its been done before, the entire point of the GT has always been being better than the equivalent Ferrari at everything.

id be surprised they didn't at Detroit, were it not for their utter mismanagement of the launch. if its ready to go, why the hell cant we have solid numbers instead of this vague crap?

unless the car is actually under development and they were trying to hide this. with them, who knows.

its just the podded wheels, i dont think this has been done on a production car from a big company before, they usually fill in that gap somehow.

its that flying buttress thing, its throwing me off too.

certain ill get used to it, but its such a radical departure from the norm its polarizing.

unless you mean the Vette, then i dont get it either. my one gripe is the circle exhausts with the angles elsewhere. a trapezoid outlet would have fit perfectly with the…

no, conclusion = dumbass

still doesn't make the absolute bitchslap from Ford any less painful.

you forgot the Z06

this might be a case of identification, to keep confusion away from the V10 R8

guys, stop. guys seriously, stop. my body cant take much more of this. im going to literally explode from lust if this keeps up.

been making this point, OMG SO MUCH HATE in my direction.

but facts remain facts. Honda screwed up, BADLY, on how they handled this launch. and its killed interest in what will probably be a cool, if complicated Supercar that has to fight some of the best cars in the world right now.

i REALLY want to see that road test.

and that's just it, are they on the ball this time? they have pretty well fucked up any of the handful of "performance" cars they've built in the last several years, so past history isnt on their side here.
add to this the fact this is the first serious performance car for them…

whats the track pack GTR packing for tires? honest question.

and of the listed, the Lambo, Ferrari, GT, and McLaren are the only ones who go way out there, everything else will be around or UNDER 150K. and that's assuming the lowest level NSX, options are going to push that number closer to 200K.

so yeah, its…