Except... this move seems likely to negatively impact revenue. You could say they failed capitalism.

I wasn’t really drawing an absolute equivalency, legal or otherwise, between neural networks and humans generally... the focus, as the first sentence emphasizes, is the narrow category of “artist”.

I think they may believe they have a more expansive (inclusive?) definition of “artist”.

A system re-organizes existing inputs, along constrained parameters, spitting out “new” things we call “art”. This system is trained through feedback from external systems producing better and better “art” over time. It’s very diffi…

And yes, this will likely result in mass unemployment, because the job of a hundred, will be done by a dozen with AI as their instrument.

It only seems like a difference of kind because you’re failing to incorporate all the variables that trained humans to be able to write an academic paper (genes, culture, experience).

They are urging caution, not summary dismissal.

Not really... I’m drawing an analogy to the millions of years of biological evolution, thousands of years of cultural evolution and the lifetime of experiences (non-random sensory inputs, interaction with other complex systems like other minds) that were attached to Rembrandt.

These systems need training... just like…

No, the fact that humans can take in large amounts of information and spit out that same information in a different arrangement that conforms to a pattern that they were trained to think of as appealing is not a compelling case for magic.

Just think about how becoming an artist works. You start out making bad art...…

It’s a giant pattern-recognition database. A rather sophisticated one, sure, but that’s all.

My point is that humans are pattern recognition machines. Neural networks are modeled on how humans process, integrate and then regurgitate information in ways that *seem* new.

People seem similarly myopic about the human mind. Folks do this hand wavy thing where they gesture towards the “secret sauce” in humans that can’t possibly be simulated (or replicated)... but it always seems more like a hope than an actual argument.

Any particular piece of art produced by a human is the product of mill…

There’s no way to engage with this art beyond looking at it and going “neat.” When you look at, say, a TX23487662.00789, there’s historical and biographical context. You can track the experimentation. You’re engaging with another being across space and time.

Do you think creativity is magic? Do you really believe there is some sort of special sauce in the human software that can’t exist anywhere else?

I don’t consider anyone a psycho for thinking a kid deserves to be detained by police in a context like this. Did he even go to “jail”?

A worker is only being exploited when they are not appropriately compensated for their work and you can only rationally determine appropriate compensation by at least glancing at the market. I have no doubt there is a “going rate” (probably a constrained range) for this type of work that very roughly reflects the…

This is the Internet, people show up and disappear, you never know if somebody is going to come back to the conversation or not, you don’t have to have a full conversation in chronological order, reply and response, you can ask questions and lay out opinions all at once.

...wanting people to talk the way you want them to.

If you can’t actually engage with any of my specific criticisms, I’m OK with that. I certainly don’t need validation from random people on the internet.

There is a lot of overhead for self-employment that most folks simply don’t think of (retirement savings, health care, unstable work, etc).. but I find it doubtful that a talented freelance artist would need three 40 hour work weeks to produce a piece like this. We’re missing a lot of details that make all the…

Things can be pretty relative... if he’s fortunate enough to have a job where he can work from home (like... freelance artist?) that could be well above the cost of living in the area.