Short answer: No. Long answer: “Sufficient” for what?

Nothing to see here. Trade the auto industry with every every other industry and its the same story. Gov wants to impose regulations that will cost the industry money. The industry complains and fights back with self-funded studies and PR in an attempt sway the consumer’s opinion in their favor. Sometimes it works,…

Make it MUCH more difficult to obtain a driver license...

It’s only logical until you realize it’s practically impossible.

And I’ve got a 10ft dick.

“My daily commute is 600 miles each way through rocky terrain that requires a foot of ground clearance and also I need to haul two motorcycles everywhere I go. I live in a remote area of the Yukon Territories and there is no electricity near me. This is why EVs are useless and no one should care about them until they…

In before someone says this isnt enough daily range for them.

Look at the front bumper though. There was an impact severe enough to crumble bodywork outside the wheel well

Nice price, would not buy.

They’d still not get past the stigma of the Harley name. It’s their own fault.

Anybody truly surprised?! They been dying since the beginning of the century. Rip the bandaid off and be done with it. Nobody wants what they are selling if they are under 55 years old

Ultimately I just don’t see a path forward for Harley. The seem to have a tech problem, they seem to have an image problem, they seem to have a demographic problem, they seem to have a dealership elitist problem, and they certainly have leadership problems.

What can they do to fix themselves without metaphorically…

Nothing like a more-than-half-ton-engine *alone* smashing through the ol’ windshield.

Not all of us hate trucks, but nearly all of us hate bro trucks. It’s the kind of people that own/drive them. Even around the Detroit area, we have our fair share of tasteless bro trucks with trump 2020 and “don’t tread on me” flags waving behind.

Having 30% less people on board means your chances of catching the virus is quite a bit lower.

It does make a difference.

“I have no use for these key stick things or an ignition” - Erik Shilling, 1921

Counterpoint: carrying around additional physical objects when you have a digital object that can do them all is just a waste of effort.

I have zero desire for any car where I have to fuck around with putting physical keys in locks. I have my Luddite tendencies when it comes to cars, but keys are very much not one of them. I have touch code locks on my HOUSES too. Physical keys are relics of bygone days.

Gotta love that ‘gentrification’ is considered a 4-letter word these days. It’s code for: “I don’t want these white people moving into my neighborhood.” SMH.

Everything is racist, didn’t you know that?