I don’t understand the desire for this car. It looks good from the front and the side.

It’s a nightmare to repair and you’re going to pay BMW repair costs on a rare vehicle.

It’s powertrain is weak/slow for the price point and for the car it is trying to be. An ATS-V would easily beat it, and be cheaper. It’s always…

Consider there is a finite number of people who have 60k+ to spend on a car.

Now consider we’ve added a bunch of new models over the past 8 years in that segment that have been eating into that sales pie.

Then consider the economy, white collar job layoffs, inflation.

Yeah, I think they’re screwed. 

You know THREE people that own them? Man, you must have a huge or specialized social circle. I think they’ve sold less than 30k of these in total nationwide.

It won’t matter, republican judges will ultimately dismiss claims against their DOGE czar of any wrongdoing

My Rivian bed length is. Doesn’t mean it isn’t useful. 

This x1,000,000.

It’s like reserving a spot in a line for 10 cents.

Worth doing if you expect the item may be amazing and line may be long, but once those are found not to be true ..whoopty do

Is that even cool? It has the visibility of a Camaro, and just seems.. chunky. Did it eat everyone’s cake? Why are the wheel arches so high? Are those 20's? What can you actually see with those side-view mirrors? Why is there no rear-view mirror? Why does the grill have to be ripped from the Malibu?

I’m hot and I’m ready to goooooo

If you like coasters and haven’t been to Cedar Point, do yourself a favor and go. 

The demand isn’t/won’t be there for their current models. The market simply isn’t large enough for 70-110k electric trucks/SUVs, especially “in this economy.” I wouldn’t expect them to be profitable until they’re selling a significant number of R2s, but given that’s not until 2026, they’ve still got to figure out cash…

I have never understood the prices for this car and who is paying them.

It doesn’t have great performance

Maybe. One 0f these vehicles exist, and 0ne doesn’t.

Is Ford not a legacy automaker? Both the Mach-E and lightning have usable frunks.

The economy is great for the rich. Still waiting on that trickle down. 

I mean.. would you really want to own an early electric that was all-Honda? At least GM has significant experience in making a BEV. 

I mean Tesla isn’t, as Lucid, Rivian, Ford, all have frunks, but your point is overall valid.

I see the 4c on the slideshow cover. I see this for sale occaisoninally, and am interested enough to click on them, but always laugh at the amount people are expected for them.

It’s a cool car, but I’m not spending $65k on a used one from 2017. There are so many better options at that price. 

Y’all are a little too worried about this, IMO.

If it could actually go 466 miles, it will rarely need charged on the road for the majority of drivers/use cases. You charge at home 98% of the time.

If there is demand created for charging, companies will pop-up and charge to support it. Day 1 there may not be support…

Looks like a pretty sweet update to the Flex. The rear isn’t going to be everyone’s favorite in design language, but it is certainly polarizing. Some decent chunks of blind spot on the sides in the back, too. Those look a bit more weird on the tan? copper? colored model.

Rivian has backers in Amazon and GM.

It’s not in as risky of a position as Lucid.

But yes, that is a back-of-mind consideration just the same.