Thanks for the clarification.

She’s Latina. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out she’s probably Catholic.

The difference there is with rape a deterrence rationale actually makes some sense. It’s ubiquitous because it’s not taken seriously. You’re not going to get all the twelve year olds trying to stab each other because you didn’t make an example out of these two.

Right now? I don’t want them on my block either. But after some therapy and medication and them growing into fucking adults who can think like adults, I wouldn’t be concerned.

Wisconsin law actually requires all offenders over ten to be tried as adults, if memory serves. The judge never had a choice. This is the state that elected Scott Walker, remember. They’re experts in barbarism.

You watch too many movies bro. After five years of therapy and maturation and a good medication regimen, they might make fine roommates. Like I said above, the “Nevada-tan” schoolgirl killer in Japan has been free for years and hasn’t made a fuss.

You’re still thinking in terms of punishment. I think that’s the fundamental disagreement to be had here. To my mind, unless there’s some kind of deterrence rationale, and I don’t think there is here, punishment is pointless. That leaves you with containment (the way the law seems to be working out here) or…

If they don’t stab anybody else, then who gives a shit?

You realize the little Japanese girl who stabbed her elementary school classmate to death a few years back is living a normal adult life now, right? I’m kind of a pessimist by nature but even I think you’re giving up on these girls prematurely.

Pro tip is a meme. I didn’t intend for you to take that turn of phrase at face value.

Pro tip: Guys are crazy insecure. There’s this idea that we’re all super lusty, but there’s a lot of social pressure for guys to be that way. We’re told our whole lives that we’re not worth a damn if we’re chaste; it’s the flip side of the coin you have to deal with. As a result, plenty of men out there very much are…

This. The people doing this often don’t like it either, but they like it more than watching their kids go hungry.

This is what I was thinking of. Does this sound dramatically more ethical to you?

How many people’s deaths are caused by legal corporations we buy from all the time? Is Coca-Cola really so much more morally upstanding than los Zetas?

I’m not a woman. I don’t need to be to have little sympathy for this guy. But in any case, I don’t think it’d take a whole lot of legwork to figure out how soon the guy was likely to be found.

This. This “left him for dead” business is totally over the top.

Do we know that, that they didn’t know someone would look for him? Why are we assuming that?

I’m not a doctor, but it seems to me that if he’s healthy enough to screw twin teenagers, he’s probably healthy enough to survive a night or so tied up.

Yeah, as a dude I have really little sympathy for this guy. I’m already skeeved out by girls that young and I’m 27. You gotta have no shame at all to think, hey, I’m just going to fuck the kind of girl who meets 84 year old men on dating sites, and not think at all about why she’d be there. He’s a creep and deserves…

Listen to the locals. Anywhere you go, it’s usually certain very specific areas, and they’ll know much more than a guidebook or the Internets. (Source: work for an airline, end up lots of bizarre places) A lot of the scary stuff you hear about in SA is Joburg townships and the like. I don’t know much about…