It's Winn and Cisco which we have not seen yet, but I can keep my fingers crossed.

I'd say give it a shot. Tonight's episode was a little campy with the double dose of villains. You're missing Alex and Hank and they really add to the overall show, especially in relation to Kara in the pathos department.

IDK I mean I remember him in Tudors and he.. was charming.
Not Grant and Melissa levels of giddy charm though, true I suppose.

absolutely. Grant Gustin is fantastic as the Flash and the supporting cast is A++

I was so distracted by Melissa and Grant's amazing chemistry I won't even begrudge the lack of them singing at karaoke or something.
More of this. Make Snyder sit and watch this. BvS doesn't have to be EXACTLY like this of course, but this is what Superman is supposed to be like. Henry Cavill has such a charming smile,…

I mean I liked it, but it just kind of.. came out of nowhere. Kind of like repressed sadness or something at being betrayed by him so many times that she was finally getting off her chest.

agreed. I don't think as it stands now Oliver/Laurel make an iota of sense.

oh you think Laurel's the one in the grave? And no I meant the way you said spoilers indicated to me you thought me talking about the eventual possible coupling of Laurel/Oliver was a spoiler.

I found her annoying but I don't think I outright hated her. I hated what the writers did to her meh. She's come a long way since then thankfully. If they ruin it I'll be sorry to see this version of Laurel go.

oh man.. that's gonna be something if that's the path they are going.

don't yell at me though.. I just.. it would be.. something ballsy if they did that to Olicity. Considering how many fans it has.
I personally don't want to see it. I think the time for it has passed.

LOOK lady/sir/person I will feel terribly for Olicity shippers if that happens (I'm ship neutral but I hate creators ship baiting and ship teasing)
I am just.. considering the possibility.

how is that spoilers…? It hasn't happened in the show but it's comic canon and even someone like me who has only ever watched a bit of Justice League knew that and never read the comics and still knew about that.

no no I don't ship Laurel/Oliver but I'm just wondering if that's the way they'll go.. if they do.

i much preferred domestic bliss Olicity than all the pointless Olicity angst in s3 ugh.

I did appreciate Thea as the audience plant as a shipper.

.. I wonder if they are just.. setting up Laurel and Oliver after all..
ETA: I don't ship anything. The only reasons I am positing this is 1) Laurel's odd reaction and crying when finding out Oliver cheated on her with the babymama, so many years later and 2) this forced Olicity breakup.

I'm thinking now that J'onn is no longer hidden and his shape shifting abilities will likely make news (probably?) Cat will figure it out

Arrow's dismal third season deserved all the panning. S4 has been better admittedly.

I'm not the one arguing against it.. did you reply to the wrong person?