In spite of my love of Kevin Costner and Kelly Reilly and my admiration for Taylor Sheridan I gave up on this series part way through Season Two, because I also love Wes Bentley, who’s a fine actor and I got tired of seeing Jamie made the eternal butt monkey at every turn. And it looks as if they aren’t going to…

They really need to step up the Jamie character and give him a win or have him do something truly evil (in the present day) to justify sticking it to him over and over and over. I think we’re supposed to cheer Beth on but I just feel kind of sorry for him at this point.

A darker view too is that he thinks a wounded, more-vulnerable Shiv will turn to him.

LackeySlack!

That may well have been part of Tom’s motivation. I do think his move is explainable by his view that Logan always wins, so of course he sided with Logan when Shiv decided to openly rebel against Logan. But I also suspect he still craves her love, and is hoping that by making himself into a more powerful figure (the…

as the Roy siblings are forced to make their own piles of money now.

yes, it is frustrating the complaints about the wheel spinning, because it’s literally the point. the kids are becoming more and more terrible the more they get stuck in this cycle. The patterns repeat and it’s maddening for the child because you don’t know how to get out. 

 But I think, to me, the point is that Logan won against the other two either way. If Roman sides with him, he gets to show that Roman will betray and hurt them (and he’s free to betray Roman at his own leisure). If Roman doesn’t side with him, he gets to hurt them by pretending that Roman siding with them hurt Roman.…

I hear you! I also don’t think Logan really cares about Roman being on his side but it would just be a win over the other two. Like taking the children from Caroline was more about her losing than genuine care or love. And yes, love means a whole lot on this show, just not to Logan.

I mean, did Logan really care about getting Roman in this side? He had already won. If Roman chooses him, he just refuses to give him the position Roman betrayed his siblings for. If Roman doesn’t choose him, he gets to pretend Roman is not getting the position but would have if he’d betrayed his siblings. It’s not…

That toast didn’t decide anything.

As someone who loved Tom right from the pilot episode, and has always felt Matthew Macfadyen is remarkable as a very difficult character, I was really thrilled at his ascent up the ladder into Logan’s graces.

HE IS THE ELDEST SON

god, those roy siblings. the moment with kendall confessing about the manslaughter killed me but the way kendall was holding onto roman in that final scene also really got me. they really do love each other. it also really struck me how quiet kendall was in that final scene and it was mostly shiv and roman focused.…

Shiv wants her mommy so bad. That speech was painful. There was a wonderful parallel between Shiv’s toast and Roman coming to his father with love.

Kendall’s confession broke me. Afterwards when Shiv asked him where he wanted to wait and he said “Can I be with you guys?” Reader, I wept. My god. The way this show mines genuine humanity from such utterly irredeemable characters is like nothing I’ve ever seen.

Yep this is the real answer. He’s way too insecure to ever give up power.

Which of the Roys have a soul at all? They are all repulsive with “scruples” entirely linked to personal convenience. Connor is the only one who is even vaguely human, ironically because he’s too incompetent to even want to be evil.

“The Skunk, the Porcupine and the Concubine” as her best wedding gift! The interactions are very clever but you wouldn’t want to experience any of it IRL.. I do love the dialogue; Aaron Sorkin, minus the preachy tone, with focus and an editor (still thinking why I didn’t like The Newsroom).

As supporting characters go, I continue to be fascinated by Willa. She’s clearly genuinely fond of Connor (her defensiveness of him at Kendall’s birthday party was fantastic) but also clearly wants out of the Roy family drama.