Huh, I’ll go tell my beer league softball team that we can’t actually play the game because we are not athletes. Anyone can play any of these games. only the elite can go pro, that’s true regardless of the game you are talking about.

Why I explicitly stated NASCAR. not a 24 hr race like Le Mans.

All sports without question. I wasnt commenting on those. I stated that if you consider baseball golf or NASCAR a sport you must consider eSports sports

Ok give a definition of sport that includes baseball and excludes esports without using the word ball.

The evidence of you knowing anything about sports is what exactly? the fact that you didn’t know MLB players have played drunk or high.

No one in MLB has had their career shortened due to Carpal Tunnel...
each game has its repetition related stress injury.

Neither is anyone in the NBA, are you trying to argue that one’s sport must involve a specific from of ligament damage to be a sport?

Hes still a pro ball player. all of these guys are clearly athletes in their prime.

Think back to Watergate. The way to do this is get Pence ousted first. replace Pence with a compromise VP ( think Romney) and then dump Trump.

I was discussing Baseball NASCAR and Golf (toss Bowling and Pool but most people don’t stretch sport that far) , those three games specifically. I stated that if you consider them sports you must consider esports a sport. Football, Basketball, Hockey, Soccer all require a different level of athleticism.

the OP stated…

When was the last time Prince fielder or CC Sebesta out ran anything? sure there are some athletes that play the game of baseball but it’s not a requirement, nor is being sober.

I honestly don’t care if anyone considers eSports a sport or not, my main contention is that baseball, NASCAR and Golf are not sports. All I said is if you consider any of those three games sports, you have to consider eSports a sport. They all take a similar level of athleticism.

You are the idiot who didn’t know baseball can be played at a high level drunk, how exactly do you know more about sports than me?

The definition of sport offered above built to exclude esports was that you had to be athletic and it couldn’t be played at a high level drunk. Neither of these things are true for baseball. All you need to hit a ball is reflexes and amazing hand eye coordination, amazingly that is the same skill set needed for…

I didn’t mention football. even the fat guys in football are athletes and I have never heard of a player playing drunk so it fits the narrow definition of sport placed up above. I am just pointing out that the definition of sport created to remove eSports also removes baseball.

This is your temple of athleticism

If sports are by definition only played by athletes then no baseball, golf, bowling, NASCAR are not sports. Or are you arguing that John Daly, Prince Fielder, and Lance “Fat Elvis” Birkman are athletes

How exactly do you know more about sports than me. you are the idiot who thought Baseball couldn’t be played drunk.

Nice moving goalposts. Your statement was any game that can be played at a high level drunk is not a sport. Well baseball, Golf (john Daley are all clear examples of games that can be plays better drunk) and Bowling are all games that can be played at the highest level drunk and high.