You were trying to negotiate a retail car using NADA trade value. There lies the issue

The reason you know that this ain’t happening is because if “all the dealers” were in cahoots and listing the prices high, then there would be the one cut throat mofo out there that would be undercutting them and selling every car they got while the rest of the overpriced dealers couldn’t sell their cars.

Can confirm. Own a small used car dealership, and people routinely get offended that we will not sell a vehicle to them for less than we paid. The margins are small for small independent non-bhph dealers.

Our path ahead is lit by the burned bridges behind us

Tip: If it’s only half a worker, he’s not sleeping.

This is nuts - and not in a good way. I hope there’s some sort of user flow that involves the steering wheel controls, because no way would I be dicking around with that while driving.

Obligatory “old guys, crappy interior, motors blowing up, I’d rather have a____ or a ____ or a____, GM shitty quality....” Okay, now that that’s out of the way, I can’t wait to find out what they’re doing here and WTF is going on with that mid-engined thing! Given that they’re showing more of these things openly now,…

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What was wrong with the old hosts though? They actually started to have chemistry

It’s easy to say he was a dumbass BUT, having bought a car once with a somewhat subprime loan ( I was young, had a good job but lousy credit because I’d never had credit), when you get a loan like this they do an amazing job of not telling you how much your interest rate is (mine was 12%) or how much you will be…

Are we the same person?

Good! Send their asses to Car and Driver, where they still swear the Corvette isnt midengine.

Look up Charlie Gard. UK court wants to pull the plug on this kid, while the parents have already crowd funded $1.6 million to move their boy to the US for experimental treatment which may have a 10% chance of success. UK health care don’t think the treatment will work so they rather pull the plug and let the kid die.

That’s actually called negotiating

I’m not a morally corrupt person, but in the case of buying/selling/flipping vehicles, I’m confident in saying that my belief is if both parties are happy with the sale, then it’s 100% fine. Where it would cross the line for me is if the buying party tries to haggle even more on a deal where they know they’re already…

Too easy to get a rough ballpark on the internet these days as a seller...now, if you actively try to persuade a seller that what they have is worth far less than what they’re offering, trying to get a deal, that’s a bit shady.

It’s completely irrational, I know, but I absolutely cannot stand these guys. I have no idea why.

Your last paragraph is 10000000000000000% correct. Some fucking mook did a halfassed job replacing the pump the first time, then right fucked it a second time, then flat broke it the third time. And of course I could rant about how flat rate rewards techs for cutting corners, and eventually make mistakes, but I will…

Ummm....this is pretty open and shut. She raced her car, her warranty is void. Yea the dealer looked into it when the problem became a headache but they are not wrong. Stop trying to cheat and get your car fixed under warranty when you broke the agreement.