Can confirm. Haven’t seen any crazy lines closer to Boston including towns from the south to the north west suburbs.

This post leaves out the real reason this won’t get shutdown anytime soon.

Agree. It looks nice but it doesn’t look special.

I find the opposite regarding exterior size. Both the Telluride and Palisade look smaller on the road vs some of the competition.

For Hyundai, “N” stands for Namyang, the location of Hyundai Motor’s global R&D Center in Korea.

Yeah, I never figured it would cover me and was fine with that. It was great when it did though. Only possible on my home-bound commutes, slight elevation loss and Southeast Expressway traffic to regen in which would give me the biggest boost.  Besides, half the year you likely want your car to heat the cabin and you…

Nope, but it isn’t as far off as you think. As long as you keep your foot in a reasonable place and not planted, it exceeds the rating pretty easily. The PHEV rarely, if ever, did.

Would love to be un-grayed again...

Exactly why I am in an ICE Sonata N Line after 4.5 years, 75k miles in a ‘16 Sonata Limited PHEV. Electricity in the Boston area is around $0.25 per kWh, RUG around $2.65. It was even cheaper for gas the last several years, made it cheaper to drive as a hybrid or within pennies per day either way.

I had a PHEV and went back to ICE. Wasn’t planned, wanted to jump to full EV but nothing in my price range excited me. I plugged in every night, drove 60-70 miles 5 days a week, 20-50 miles per weekend.

Good point on the consumption side.

Watch out, this slice of the internet isn’t a place to speak freely. You will end up back in the grays like me.

Germany has a lot of CUVs rolling around.

The argument is always the same.  Folks who don’t use it don’t want to pay for it and a lot of the people who rely on it or would rely on it could never afford the true cost.

Not sure why the “comedians” are so upset. They, just like Musk, think they are on a pedestal and are a gift to the lowly people that inhabit the world around them.

I don’t know for sure, there might be.

I know you know this but by putting it the way you do some people forget that electricity costs money too.

I think the person means that you plan the purchase in advance rather than run down to the car dealer to drive away that day. Unless you absolutely need a car that day/week, might as well order ahead and get exactly what you want for the terms you want. But, like you mentioned, that might not help in this situation…

“He lives in Maine, which has only one electricity provider, and it was charging him heavily for “delivery fees.” (That’s something I had never heard of, although as a Texan, I’m clearly in no position to critique another state’s power grid.)“

I would be in a Guilia if I actually fit in it but I don’t. I did a lot of research and other than the early Guilias requiring spark plugs at 30k miles, didn’t really see anything too crazy in terms of annual maintenance or major issues that plagued the 4 cyl turbo cars.