wtf? Goddamn disqus.

Thank you, tone police.

It's Ben Affleck. I can accept stupid from Ben, even if he is playing Batman.

"He just sort of lucks out that Batman was already planning to kill Superman because NIGHTMARES!"

Yes, the Joker wins in The Dark Knight.

Jesse Eisenberg's performance was the best out of the movie. It's a great performance. Forget the Riddler and the Joker.

"Again, you're not helping your case by insulting the people who disagree with you."

Superman refers to his own mother by her first name because you can't look up "mom" on the evening news. Or any other explanation really.

No, The Joker was the bad guy.

The Joker terrorizes Gotham and turns the public against Batman. Part of the Joker's ideological aim is to show everyone he talks to that the public can be easily manipulated.

"He doesn't kill Superman because of his incredibly bad judgement. After spending some period of time plotting to murder someone because NIGHTMARES he instantly tosses the plan, simply because the man said a meaningful name. "

"But you didn't need to explain it. It wasn't some subtle thing. It was heavy handed as shit. Finding out they had mothers with the same name humanized Superman to Bruce, who previously saw him as an alien and not a person. EVERYONE GETS THAT. EVERYONE. "

The entire city's hope was pinned on that "one man" being untouchable. The Joker wins because his goal is to expose human and societal hypocrasies. He wins because he consistently achieves this goal throughout the film. The Joker acknowledges his victory at the end because he knows that society's hope will depend…

That's entirely fair. For some reason it worked for me.

The bad guy wins in The Dark Knight.

"No, it doesn't. It means you felt the need to explain it to one person who took issue with the scene. And you rushed to the conclusion that because he didn't like the scene he must not have understood it. That was what you took from his comment, and it didn't prove anything."

Yet moments of levity are not a requirement.

"Most of the criticism of Martha scene doesn't stem from people not being able to understand it, but how it failed to convey these ideas."

You should read my explanation before responding to it.

His bad dreams illustrate how afraid he is of what he doesn't understand.